Rythmik Audio F12/F12-400 vs JL Audio E-Sub e112

If you were in Europe, you didn’t have good sub options 5 or 10 years ago. Now you do, you have some good options in the 1k to 3k range...

Elac Varro DS1200 (dual opposed 12 inch)

Elac Varro DS1000 (dual opposed 10 inch)

Elac Varro RS700

Elac Varro RS500

KEF KC92 (dual opposed 9in)

KEF KC62 (dual opposed 6.5)

etc that are all good subs for music with extension under 20hz.

Since Rythmik is US manufacturer direct, it works out better (price/logistics) in the US. James633 is not alone on the report of JL reliability issues.

@sounds_real_audio Hello! I have just bought a 300W amp (for 4 Ohms) but haven’t tried it yet, I have to change 110v to 230v first. I’m sure the sound will become better!

@james633 Thank you for warning! I’ve never seen any reviews like that, everybody considers them to be elite subs. And of course I don’t want any problems and it will be difficult to me to send it back to manufacturer...

@soix thanks for advice!

@deep_333 DS1200 maybe is ok, I will read about it again, thank you. I’m not sure why, but I never considered Elac as a part of my system. Are you sure KC92 will work like 12"?

Happy Rythmic F15 sealed owner

About 5 years ago I bought a pair of F12 subs with the A370XLR2 amps. I use them with a pair of Eminent  Technology LFT-8b speakers and am very happy with them.  Hard to beat for the money for sure.  If I had the money I’d of bought a pair of Rel’s bought would have cost me almost twice as much for what I wanted that would be comparable.  Also, the nice thing on the Rythmik subs is all of the control you have.  For instance, I have a dip in my room that I like to boost around the 20 to 25 Hz area.  There is a, essentially single parametric equalizer that boost a frequency with.  I don’t use the electronic crossover that’s in the rhythmics for my main speakers.  I run the eminent technology speakers full range as I prefer that, and just bring the subwoofers in at a very low frequency and cross them over. Sounds phenomenal and really don’t even know they’re there until those low bass notes hit.  

@deep_333 DS1200 maybe is ok, I will read about it again, thank you. I’m not sure why, but I never considered Elac as a part of my system. Are you sure KC92 will work like 12"?

@iad They are both very refined subs (high quality drivers, etc), but the KC92 wouldn’t keep up with the DS1200’s output, of course. If your room’s not too big and listening levels are not that high, you can get away with the KEF.

Personally, I would recommend the Varro DS1000 with the dual 10inch force balanced drivers for your Buchardt speakers and room size. Don’t be fooled that they are 10 inch drivers. It hits below 20 hz like a champion/gets you in the infrasonic zone, if needed.

The Varro subs come with a very useful auto PEQ tool developed during Andrew Jones’ tenure that will try to match the sub’s nearfield response (i.e., before the room got in the picture) to your listening position. You still need to not put the sub in a decent location. But, it can help out guys with purist rigs or others who may not know how to integrate subs too well.