Rythmik Audio F12/F12-400 vs JL Audio E-Sub e112


Hello everyone! I am choosing a subwoofer mainly for listening to music in stereo. There are two candidates, as the title suggests. Now there is an opportunity to buy a JL at a discount, and the price of the Rythmik will be much more expensive than the official one due to shipping to Serbia from the USA + taxes. So it comes out to about the same. The listening room is about 25 sq.m with two wide passages to the kitchen and dining room of the same area. The musical genre is mainly metal, but also light music with my wife. Speakers - Buchardt S400 MKII. Listening at a medium volume level, shaking the floor is not necessary, but scale, depth, weighty lows and musicality are needed. Please help me make a choice.

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Yes bdp24, I’ve looked at switching to OB several times but finances have always stopped me from moving forward on this.  A pair of triple 12” (which is what I’d want) OB which a wood kit, etc is about twice as much as I paid for the Rythmik’s.  At the time I purchased them I was still “in the business” and got a bit a discount.
I have tried running the Rythmik’s with the crossover set all the way up and disconnected the woofer in the ET’s (like someone in an OB forum suggested ) but there’s a noticeable hole so doesn’t work the same as an OB setup would.  

I have heard full OB systems and they are incredible!  The most impressive system I’ve ever heard (and I was going to CES, in the business since the early 80’s) was a full OB system with dual subs consisting of four 12” drivers and the NX Ottica speakers.  Driven by a custom made 50 wpc Nelson Pass style amp.  It was just so clean and full sounding.  Takes a lot to amaze me but I loved it!  I know what I eventually want to build for a system but will be a long while.  Will probably start with the triple OB subs first, sell my Rythmik’s and be happy for a while (until my wife forgets) then eventually get some OB full range sets. 

 

Yeah @harpo75, the "regular" Rythmik (and GR Research) subs---like most (all?) others---will play up to little more than 100Hz. The woofers in the OB/dipole Sub are designed to work in "free air", and the Rythnik Audio plate amp included with the kit is modified specifically for dipole use, with a dipole cancellation compensation circuit.

Since the woofer in the ET LFT-8 plays up to 170Hz, a "normal" sub (whether Rythmik, GR Research, or any other brand) cannot take the place of the LFT's dynamic driver, which is a woofer not a subwoofer. However, the Rythmik F8 (a pair of 8" drivers in a sealed enclosure)---which will play up to 250Hz---CAN be used in place of the stock LFT-8's woofer. But the F8 is priced higher than the OB kit, and appears to be nearing discontinuation anyway.

 

I have a pair of JL E112 that I use in my 2 channel / home theater setup. I went with Jl because they have excellent aurthority for theater effects while maintaining the ability to be musical for 2 channel. If I was only going to use them for 2 channel, then I would have gone with a more musical subwoofer such as REL or Perlisten.

I did have a "fuzzy noise"issue with one of my JL E112 which I had to send back to the factory two times for diagnosis and repair. They actually couldn't find the problem and eventually sent me a brand new replacement. That wouldn't be possibly out of the country. Although I'm very ahppy with my setup now, I'd pass on the JLs for your situation.

@damusicguy okay, looks like JL is not a best option. I would like to have Perlisten but they are too expensive for me now. Maybe if I could find 10" used, but no one sells them.

Rythmik has a good reputation and is probably the best bang for the buck. Based on the measurement I would argue they are better than a lot of the completion regardless of price.