Amplifier Power tubes - important to sound?

Curious, I read herein that the feedback level related to the amplifier is important to consider for purposes of evaluating whether it really makes much of a difference to tube roll power tubes. Anyone know why that would be?

Further, I am biamping with mc 901 monos and since the solid state part of it handles the bass drivers maybe power tubes are not that important since it appears it impacts the bass area more so.

But since I love spending so much money on everything audio even the slightest change might be worth considering. Maybe power tubes would impact the mid driver.

There are some people posting herein who know a hell of a lot about tubes. It’s actually kind of scary.

I have quite a collection of KT88s. For my system the KR KT88 sounds best. Mainly the tone and balance top to bottom being accurate. 

roxy54

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08-13-2024 at 12:17am 

@emergingsoul

It’s so strange. I want to believe that your just putting us on

”your”?  “your”??

OMG @roxy54: are you OK?

Do we need a new grammar nazi???

@darkblacksmoke 

I agree, the prices are ludicrous, but that is just what the market is.  For example, looking for true NOS Genalex / GEC tubes, I could only find one dealer that appeared to have multiple legitimately "NOS" quads (Gold Monarch) in stock - not the "tests new"  stuff you typically see on Ebay.  And they wanted $4500 a quad.  (Although I do note there is one guy on EBay right now selling what looks to be one legit NOS quad for $2k). 

Its a simple issue of supply and demand - there just is no supply.  If you can find these tubes in quantity for half that price I'd be forking over the cash pretty quickly.

I agree with you on Tube Depot - they sold me a Mullard EZ81 that wasn't (no date codes, looked to be a Brimar).

I also completely agree with you that anyone says that the KR KT88 sound like the GEC KT88 clearly hasn't listened to them both.

"Curious, I read herein that the feedback level related to the amplifier is important to consider for purposes of evaluating whether it really makes much of a difference to tube roll power tubes. Anyone know why that would be?"

I've seen quite a few people say that tube swapping shouldn't make a difference in a high-feedback amplifier.  The theory is that high levels of feedback will pretty much swamp any small sonic differences between tube brands.  All I can tell you is that my Williamsons use the standard 20dB of feedback, which is about as much feedback as most vintage push-pull amplifiers employ, but the differences in output tubes are clearly audible to me.  Moreover, feedback cannot compensate for poorly-made tubes that produce below-rated wattage, higher distortion, microphonics and other undesirable artifacts.