Toe in is crucial

@hilroy48 that is very fast timing. I get to move them around for several days in and out during listening till I find what I want.

@czarivey  The dealer I bought them from, Brought some reference Media he likes and know what it is supposed to sound like. From there we played my music for the final tweaking that suited my ears. I have the option to move my listening chair back and forth as well. 

When I get new speakers I always try no toe in and on axis back to back to see the extremes. I almost always end up somewhere in the middle. 

This subject is on my mind right now. For years, I was listening in my room with no toe-in. About two years ago, i decided to toe in my speakers to see what, if anything, i might be missing. At the time, the toe-in I achieved allowed me to 'improve' the width of my soundstage and I was happy with that. Now about three months ago, i decided I wanted to hear what my old set up sounded like, so back to zero toe-in I went. Well to say the improvement is quite noticeable and in all ways better would be an understatement! I had noticed a very slight amount of brightness when the speakers were toed-in, assuming that this was part of a source problem, as the issue came and went depending on the recording. Now, that issue is no more, the horns again have the right amount of blat, the depth and soundstage is even wider and the bass is simply more there. No issues with any type of fatigue, that I now put down to the tweeters aimed directly at my ears before. So, although it clearly can be beneficial to toe-in, and highly system room dependent, the lesson here, at least for me, is that this not always the case. 

From now on, my speakers are straight ahead.

@daveyf 

+1 sometimes that is the way to get there… with long intervals.