@carlsbad2 yeah, they're not the best, but decent for a ceiling mounted speaker. I forget to mention that I'm using a small Martin Logan subwoofer with the two surround speakers. That helps some.
My furniture doesn't really work with floor standers in the rear. I have a pair of Von Schweikert VR-4 sitting unused, but they're pretty huge.
I had been using some tiny surrounds by Cambridge Audio thinking the rears were mostly just ambience. I hooked up the PSB and ML sub and I hear all kinds of stuff now coming from the rear channels.