Step Up Transformers….Are they Worth the Trouble?


Some of you may aware of my Garrard 301 project, it’s now very close to completion. The plinth finally shipped from Hungry after 3 months of long wait.

Given my last experience with Hana Umami Red, I would like to take things to the next level. Which brings me to mating low output cart with a SUT. Every review I’ve read so far suggests when the SUT-MC match is right, the end result is heavenly. The bass is right, the midrange is clear, and most importantly, the highs are relaxed and extended—not rolled off.

I am not saying you can’t get great sound without a SUT but it appears with a properly matched SUT, sound can be quite magical.

Thought this would be the right time to get input from experienced users here since I am still contemplating my cartridge and outboard phonostage options.

My preference would be to go with a tube phono…I kinda miss tinkering with tubes :-)

My system, Garrard 301 (fully refurbished), Reed 3P tonearm, Accuphase E-650 with built-in AD50 analog board ➡️ Tannoy Canterbury’s.

Cart and phono under consideration through my dealer,

Fuuga - Output : 0.35 mVrms | Impedance : 2.5 Ω (1kHz)

Phonostage - Tron Convergence and Konus Audio Phono Series 1000

The cart - MC combination, I am lusting after is Etsuro Urushi Bordeaux MC with their Etsuro Transformer.
https://www.etsurojapan.com/product/bordeaux

The other transformer is EMIA, cooper or silver version.

Your input is appreciated!

128x128lalitk

I remain an advocate of the SUT in use. I am also very aware of the additional connections required to be used, and know from experiences had there is more to  be achieved on this area. 

In other Threads, I have referred to the use of Low Eddy RCA Connectors on both Cables and Chassis of the Amp, where A/B comparisons were carried out with SAEC XL 5000 Cables and a Bespoke Built SS Phon's MC Input / Output on the Analogue Signal Path belonging to the Audio System used for the Demo's.

Experiencing the use of Low Eddy RCA connectors on the Analogue Signal Path, as a subjective evaluation was describable as being transformative for the betterment of the Audio System end sound, when used in the permutation of Low Eddy RCA Connectors and PC Triple C Wire, being used as the Signal Path from Cart' Lead Out Pins to Power Amp's and as Speaker Wire, I also believe on this occasion the Internal Cabinet Wire was PC Triple C as well, it it was not, it is now.

When my Analogue Source is once more set up, this type of permutation is the first of the changes to be put in place.

The PC Triple C Wire is to be used where it can be utilised within Devices and Low Eddy RCA's are to be added to Cables and Chassis in conjunction with XLR Connectors as another option. These connections will be in place on both the Power Amp and the Pre Amp design yet to be built. I am today convinced that having both options for umbilical's is where I want to be. 

My suggestion made in the past and now repeated. Is that when the Warranty Period is no longer in place on devices and if the desire is surfacing to learn if additional end sound quality can be attained. The use of Low Eddy Connectors and PC Triple C wire in the Signal Path has great potential be the method to create the improvement desired.  

@wrm57 

Thank you for your feedback. You’re spot on Allnic…I found 1:26 ~ 28dB gain as perfect setting. Whether external SUT  detracts or adds anythingtime will tell. Right now, I am dealing with my TT not liking my REL subs….I need to break that feedback loop of sub > turntable > stylus > sub > turntable > stylus > sub. 

Update: Feedback issue resolved by placing IsoAcoustics Iso-Puck Series Acoustic Isolators (Iso-Puck Mini, 6 lbs max/Unit, 8-Pack) x 2.  These little ‘pucks’  absorbing all the energy being transmitted from TT to my rack and beyond and vice versa. 12 of these amazing pucks are strategically placed underneath my TT. 

The journey into learning the value of protecting the Styli from be detrimentally impacted on by Ambient Energies being Transferred to it, has many pluteus of discovery to be made.

A Sub - Plinth with a same or alternative type of footer s good second attempt. There are numerous permutations to be pondered and tried out, all in good time though.

@lalitk Glad you were able to resolve the feedback! Nothing else really matters until this is settled. Running subs with vinyl is definitely doing life in "hard" mode ;)

I’m guessing your feedback was well into audible spectrum. When I was fighting subsonic frequencies in the small room rig (thanks to Clearaudio’s CMB bearing being super-reactive in this range), all manner of footers (including ISOAcoustics) and constrained-layer damping shelves proved to be completely ineffective - quite obvious, in retrospect. By contrast, the VPI setup was particularly reactive ~ 100Hz, and footers helped. The SOTA just needs a very rigid stand so its suspension doesn't get excited by heavy footsteps, and then NOTHING gets through.