Anyone else excited for this Borresen subwoofer?!!!


It seems quite unique...(as one might expect from Michael B).

Borresen Subwoofer - Michael Borresen Interview

 

 

deep_333

@deep_333 What you just stated to @m-db is marketing hyperbole without any basis in reality. The right term is powerful bass. Powerful bass requires the ability to move a large volume of air in a controlled fashion. This generally means large or multiple drivers with powerful amplifiers that have extremely low output impedances. Most importantly it takes enclosures that do not resonate, rattle or shake. Servo drives are an excuse for poor and undersized drivers in crappy enclosures. Digital Room control and EQ are far more important features for bass management. Next, all of the brands I mentioned also make  4 channel preamps for stereo systems, 2 main speakers and 2 subwoofers. DEQX only makes preamps for stereo systems. All those brands you mentioned do not have the engineering capability to pull off preamps like the DEQX Pre8, the Trinnov Amethyst, the Anthem STR and the MiniDSP SHD series. Digital Bass Management is critical for adequate subwoofer performance. Without it you are living in the stone age. 

Borrensen is, and correct me if I'm wrong. the Rolex of hifi the biggest difference being Rolex keeps time while letting everyone know you've got money to burn. The company offers no reason to think they are better equipped to build subs than the co's already vested in providing sub bass solutions, likely for a fraction of the cost.

@deep_333 What you just stated to @m-db is marketing hyperbole without any basis in reality. The right term is powerful bass. Powerful bass requires the ability to move a large volume of air in a controlled fashion. This generally means large or multiple drivers with powerful amplifiers that have extremely low output impedances. Most importantly it takes enclosures that do not resonate, rattle or shake. Servo drives are an excuse for poor and undersized drivers in crappy enclosures. 

@mijostyn , I think the nay saying is propagated by some competitor brands who are disgruntled because they can't step over a patent (making you all believe it's mostly marketing hyperbole). In the world of control systems, there is something called a free lunch. In this audio world, it could compensate for a poor driver/enclosure design. But, if the latter is not compromised, it can rise above the rest. Call Rythmik's founder (he's a EE) and have a nerd talk with him. He'll put the EE slant on it and describe it to you. 

Get this book off amazon if you would like to read a bit. If it looks like hieroglyphics from time to time, it could mean that you are missing some pre-requisite.

@deep_333 I am deep into control systems. I have been using room control and digital bass management since 1996 not to mention I design and build my own subwoofers. One of today's excellent low distortion subwoofer drivers 12" and larger, used in adequate quantities for the environment have no need for servo anything.   

Paul McGowan of PS Audio on dismissing servo-feedback in his custom upgraded IRS V bass towers:

https://youtu.be/1OdkRiwmYbE?t=101

Subwoofers from the outset of what are actually physically accommodating designs is the purist approach audiophiles don't want or know how to talk about, because it's inconvenient from the perspective of interior decoration and spousal approval, i.e.: the sheer size of such designs, as well as an area relegated to lesser importance - also in regards to the use of amplifiers and DSP section. What's so hard to comprehend about that?