The Shure V15 V with a Jico SAS/B stylus VS The Soundsmith Hyperion MR and Lyra Atlas SL

Doggie, wait a bit for Mijo to tell you that you must use a stereo pair (or quadruplet) of subwoofers to reach Nirvana. Actually I agree stereo subs have some advantages. But I am not in a position to criticize.

I’m munching on the idea that my Sound Lab 845 PXs “blend right into the room”. Perhaps if my listening room was a gymnasium or an aircraft hanger. Guests who don’t know any better think I’m planning a rock concert when they see the two black monoliths, each measuring 8’ x 3’, in our living room.

@mijostyn 

Which version of the Hyperion are you using? I noticed that Soundsmith now has two variants of the Hyperion. I have the previous Hyperion MK II Contact Line which is absolutely amazing. This new Micro Ridge variant of the Hyperion sounds like a great match. 

Dear @mijostyn  :  " So, it is fun to hear what we were listening to back then. Now, What cartridge is mounted in your turntable at this moment?? "

Well I don't do it just for fun but for the MUSIC overall presentation.

Several vintage cartridges are a true challenge and even can outperforms to some top today MC/MM/MI cartridges and you can't know till you listen with your today system. Shure is not a reference for what I'm talking about, far away from there.

I'm listening: Audio Technica AT-ML160-LC/OCC (MM), Audio Tecnica AT 36 ( VLOMC ) and the surprising LOMC Empire MC5.

Both AT are " something "and the AT 36 has new cantilever and stylus due that my original one had not by a mistake from me but its cartridge motor is just a beauty..

Everthing I do in my system is in favor of MUSIC enjoyment always. 

@lewm  "  what is striking in comparison to any home audio system is the dynamics of live music, as opposed to pinpoint imaging, which was the subject of that discussion.  "

Absolutely rigth an that dynamics is developed thank's to the very fast transient response of instruments in a live MUSIC.

R.

My Limited Experiences of having been able to hear Quad ESL Speakers in use with a Subwoofer, is that the carefully matched ESL>Subwoofer is is a set up that had a addition of Bass that is detectable, but certainly not an improvement, the Bass being noticeable does not augment the ESL as a Speaker it merely produces a unique type of Bass presentation in conjunction with another Speakers unique Bass presentation.

Remove the Bass from the Subwoofer as a influence on the ESL Bass and what is left is a Speaker functioning with a Bass that is satisfying and not effected by a Bass that is seemingly an anomaly.

It is because of this sensing that the Subwoofer is an anomaly, that has drawn my attention to a Ripole Bass and the Figure of Eight Radiation the Ripole produces. The design seems to lend itself to be much less detectable as a Separate Source for a Bass Driver coupled with the Bass from the ESL.

@dogberry

@mijostyn

I bought an 18" Velodyne servo-controlled subwoofer to replace my Duntech Thors, back when my main speakers were Quad ESL-63. One undoubted advantage is that, by relieving the Quads of low bass, they can play much louder before their protection circuits come into play.

The bigger Quad ESL-2905 has about twice the bass panel area, and does not really benefit much from the Velodyne, which ticks by on level 3 out of 60. Most of what I play is orchestral and the only instruments that go really deep are organs (and maybe venues?)