@lewm, not in the least. I know where jazz’ bread is buttered. But as bebop became dominant the majority of listeners were forever lost. I don’t mind, because bebop was a natural step for new jazz. Personally, bebop was a statement by certain musicians who felt disrespected. So they created a music that many couldn’t play. Still, the advancement of the music suffered among the masses. And then there came Elvis. But I’d be the last to suggest the 50’s and 60’s music was inferior to what had come before. In some regards it was even better to my ears
Recommendations for a jazz record which demonstrates vinyl superiority over digital
I have not bought a vinyl record since CDs came out, but have been exposed to numerous claims that vinyl is better. I suspect jazz may be best placed to deliver on these claims, so I am looking for your recommendations.
I must confess that I do not like trad jazz much. Also I was about to fork out A$145 for Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" but bought the CD for A$12 to see what the music was like. I have kept the change!
I love the jazz in the movie Babylon, which features local Oz girl Margo Robbie (the film, not the jazz).
So what should I buy?
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@richardbrand, I didn’t mean it as an insult. We’re a similar age, that simply walked different paths. I enjoy Classical too. But my collection is mainly jazz and popular music from the 60’s, 70’s. Each of us had different influences. Wes Montgomery was one of mine. So was Freddie Hubbard and early George Benson. I play Trumpet, piano, and guitar. My father was hugely into jazz. So yeah, it rubbed off. |
@richardbrand, being a fan of Classical you may relate to Wes Montgomery records from the 60’s. All of his stuff with producer Creed Taylor was done with string arrangements. Wes received criticism for abandoning his pure jazz roots, but these records were very popular with non jazz listeners and sold by the thousands. |
Coltrane, You wrote, "But as bebop became dominant the majority of listeners were forever lost. I don’t mind, because bebop was a natural step for new jazz. Personally, bebop was a statement by certain musicians who felt disrespected. So they created a music that many couldn’t play. Still, the advancement of the music suffered among the masses." Yes, it's difficult to play bebop well, or any other style of jazz, for that matter, because of the need to improvise. But why was it then, if jazz suffered among the masses due to bebop, that Miles Davis, Gillespie, here I will add Gerry Mulligan and Thelonius Monk, and your namesake Coltrane, sold more albums among them than most any jazz instrumentalists before or since? I just don't agree that bebop alienated listeners; rather, it made jazz musicians and those who listened to their music "cool cats". It was in fashion, then it went out of fashion, like many other cultural phenomena, except for a few diehards like me and many thousands of others who pay high prices for the LPs in that genre. Bebop probably faded on the national scene, because it became repetitious, difficult though it might be. Bebop lived right through and beyond Elvis's peak. It might be more accurate to say the Beatles took over in popularity from everything else musical in the late 60s. On the other hand, I am never caught listening to Vaughn Williams. There's a vocalise that describes the life and times of bebop, called "Boplicity". |
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