I just received my new 2A3 from Aric and have just started to break it in. I've been using his Motherlode preamp for about three years so I'm excited to hear how they work together. Has anyone compared the Linlai 2A3 tubes with other 2A3s? I'm reading a lot about the 6SN7 tubes and perhaps I've missed any discussion around the 2A3 and the Linlais specifically. With regard to the 6SN7 has anyone tried the new RAY 6Sn7?
Aric Audio Super 2A3 owners - favorite tubes?
Hello all,
I've been enjoying my new set of Aric Audio amps (the Super 6SN7 linestage + Super 2A3 amp) and have been playing around with different tubes. I am curious what tubes anyone who owns either of these prefers.
I swapped from the stock 5U4GB to some NOS RCA 5U4Gs, but not sure if there's anything better out there that owners may prefer rectifier-wise. Asking Aric, he said GB or G works fine, but beyond that didn't offer any other alternatives as far as compatible tube options.
For my 2A3 tubes, I have a set of NOS Svetlana SV-2A3 (2C4C) and EML 2a3-S Meshplates and prefer the EMLs. The Svetlanas sound nice - they are a little more 'warm' sounding to me - but they lack the detail and wide holographic soundstage that the EMLs produce.
For the 6SN7 tubes on both the pre-amp and the amplifier (3 total), I've tried Sylvania JAN 6SN7GT VT-231 2 Hole Bad Boy, Black Plates an d NOS RCA JAN 5692 6SN7 (red base) tubes and prefer the Sylvania's by a mile. Swapping from the Sylvanias to the RCAs, bass thinned out quite a bit. Detail was great, and mid/highs were nice, but the Sylvanias are overall much nicer.
What have you tried and liked / tried and kept?
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@jake18aa Congratulations on your 2a3 from Aric! I still love mine. Over the past year, I've tried a few different 2a3 tube options... Linlai 2a3 (stock) For the 6SN7, I've used the Linlai E-6SN7 (not the china market model) and NOS Sylvania JAN 6SN7GT VT-231 2 Hole Bad Boy, Black Plate. I found using 3 (2 in my pre and 1 in the amp) of the same tube option to be a little much. For me, putting an e-6SN7 on the amp and 2x the JAN 6SN7GT on the pre balanced out the sound nicely for me. The sylvanias are nice and musical, but too much of a good thing can end up getting a little 'sloppy.' The E-6SN7s are a lot crisper and more detailed, but running three of them ends up getting harsh and fatiguing after a little while (though initially it can be a bit dazzling). |
I also just got not a Super 2A3 but a custom 2A3/45 amp from Aric. Running EMLs. I just got a pair of Linlai 2A3-D tubes and they sound pretty good. Nice bass without being bloated, and good highs. Compared to the EML, maybe smaller soundstage and less space/air. Comparing them to RCA black plates later today. I’m running a 5961 RCA(I felt that it tamed the bass some) and a Northern Electric 6SN7. Aric said the 6SN7 wil have less impact than the 6SL7, about a 80/20 split (he said that circuit wise the 6SN7 should have no impact, but he found that it does). Based on that I passed on the RAY. Looking for a Linlai 6SL7-E, but I think it sounds like they are re-designing it so it’s not available (according to one site). I ordered my amp sans tubes and I trust Aric’s ear so I’m kinda wondering what those black glass Linlais sound like. |
Couple more notes since I meant to talk about the 2a3s (oops): The EML meshplates have a very big soundstage, but it's a little on the unnatural side of things sometimes, and can sometimes be a little too crisp for me. If you're okay with it being a little bit on the crazy side, they're wonderful! I still do like them, but the KRs just edged them out. Honestly though, the black glass Linlais are a really great value for the money. Performance is quite good for a new production, budget tube. To get much better you are looking at 3x+ the price point unless you get lucky with some random NOS models. |
Thanks for the comments! I will be waiting until my amp is broken in before doing any tube rolling, but I do have some 6SN7s here to play with and I'll probably have a go at some other 2A3s to compare to my Linlai E series at some point. My Motherlode II is being used in another system until the break in of the amp is complete. Right now I'm using an Audiopax Model 5 preamp so I have the opportunity to compare and contrast solid state and tubes. I'm curious what speakers people are listening to. I have a pair of Cain & Cain Super Abby (single driver, Voight design) with Abbey subwoofers. I'll be surprised if anyone chimes in and says they've heard these speakers. Terry Cain was a great cabinet maker and speaker builder who unfortunately passed away around 1992(?), but they've been good enough that I still listen to, and enjoy, them. This is the first time with a 2A3. |
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