How To Control The Eager Beaver


I’m sure that there is a better term for this but my Googling didn’t reveal one.  Analog is a secondary source for me, generally confined to albums that never made it to digital.  So I got one of these 45 year old favorites from eBay and it has a common issue that I’ve had with other turntables besides my current one in the past.

  When I depress the cueing for the tonearm it skips the first few measures .  I have to manually and slowly lower the tonearm and even then it still does this about half the time.  This only happens with certain LPs.  Is it record warping?

 

  I had my dealer check the cartridge alignment a few weeks ago.

 

  Again I’ve tried Googling this and I just haven’t been able to come up with much except improper cartridge alignment and record warping.

  Just wondering what people in this Forum, who are an amazing collection of knowledge, think

mahler123

@larryi excessive antiskating would pull the stylus OUTWARD and not inward as your answer indicates. 
 

Furthermore, all records have a raised lip and that’s something a properly adjusted tt/tonearm should handle with ease. Thus, dropping the stylus further in is only a hopeful workaround, not addressing the cause itself. 
 

@elliottbnewcombjr I agree with you.

OP, I suggest you check and adjust the tracking force as needed, and dial-up the antiskate a bit and see if this fixes the issue. 

I wondered about insufficient anti-skate, but for skating force to pull the stylus inwards, it has to be in a groove. I have had experiences where the stylus drops, bounces and jumps inwards - all without spending any time in a groove. So I suspect the raised rim on the disc is responsible for bouncing a quickly dropping stylus towards the spindle. Solution is to lower the stylus more slowly, and/or be a bit more accurate with placement just before the first track. If this is a fully automatic TT then that might be difficult.

absolutely no groove needed, anti-skate happens 'naturally' on a blank sided disc,

 

that is why you can see the effect increase/lessen as you add/reduce anti-skate force using the blank side of hudson hifi's, any other single sided discs (don't get the version with strobe on the other side)

protractor one side, other side blank

 

 

rather, inward skate, inward pull, happens naturally for any pivoted arm, on any smooth surface, no groove needed to make/see it happen.

anti-skate, which we apply, counters the natural force

you want your stylus ’floating’, so it drops down into the groove and reacts equally to input from either side of the groove as well as up and down. getting the most of advanced stylus, further down in the groove, depends on proper countering of the naturally occurring inward skate.

preventing an advanced stylus from damaging grooves, from uneven wear of itself, to get the 'potential' longer life, based on straight and proper even l/r surface contact

@elliottbnewcombjr Thank you for the tutorial on using the flat side of my protractor; dang thing didn’t come with instructions, now I know how to check one of the most mysterious adjustments to my turntables. The mystery being I never know if I’ve gotten it right, only when it’s obviously wrong. 
Next up: Overhang! I just put it where it looks straight and hope it’s good. But I probably need to start another thread on the topic.