Current or Previous Harbeth Owners…


For those of us that have had or currently have, are there other speakers you’ve listened to that you found sounded “better”?  I’m eyeing stepping into a set of 40.2 or 40.3’s, but am also willing to step in a different direction.  I realize “better” is subjective, but a speaker that does what Harbeth does, but better.  

I have a set of Pass Labs XA100.5’s, FWIW.

toddcowles

Simple fact that the energy dissipates by vibrating the cabinet which creates coloration through resonance. Now if you like this type of sound then more power to you, but I believe that speaker cabinets should be inert with only the sound of the drivers contributing. Dissipating this energy properly is not a simple proposition however. When you check out some of the more prominent speaker manufacturers they spend an enormous amount to time, energy and expense in the construction of the cabinet. Some may disagree but things like wide baffles, thin walled cabinets and parallel surfaces are not  things that typically contribute to accurate reproduction. They are also very inexpensive, comparatively, to other types of construction. 

So when people discuss the nature of Harbeth sound they describe the texture, tone and natural presentation of the speaker. I take this to mean that they dont hear these attributes on other speakers to the same degree. I attribute this to the fact that Harbeths and similar are coloring the sound in ways that other speakers do not. Some really like this presentation, but I think it is far from natural. My preference is for a transducer that comes as close as possible to the original signal and editorializes less. 

 

The BS regarding the cabinet resonance of Harbeth is laughable..WTH do you people think a Cello,Violin, Les Paul,Strat or even a close mic’d drum kit would sound like without the body resonance?
I’ve heard VERY VERY expensive,MASSIVELY heavy,dead cabinet speakers like Krell & Magico,IMO they are lifeless & soulless!

@freediver I believe instead of BS, it’s called an opinion, and believe it or not, some members actually have differing experiences that shape these things called opinions.  Enjoy the music!🎶 

@dpac996 ,this replier continues to parrot his "opinion" in thread after thread regarding Harbeth speakers,denigrating speakers & a maker who are cherished world wide by end users & reviewers..IF the cabinets contributed so much "coloration" as he states the WHY are they so highly regarded by EVERY SINGLE professional reviewer that has put their time & effort into providing the potential buyer needed Intel?
 Also to address this "issue" I offer the following excerpt from Stereophiles M30.2Xd Anniversary review:
" the thin-wall cabinet construction advanced by the BBC type of designs is intended to minimise such resonance, by means of a layer of heavy and lossy bituminous coating on the inner surface of the panels. Just as a car's shock absorber converts spring rebound energy into heat and stops the car from continuing to bounce long after the initial bump has passed, so this damping layer absorbs and dissipates most of the energy transmitted into the cabinet wall, thus reducing the amplitude and duration of unwanted vibration.
Research carried out by the BBC back in 1976 proved that this construction method reliably put any cabinet wall 'noise' at least 30dB below the main sound output level, meaning that this coloration became inaudible. In engineering terms, that is 'job done'.
As always, there is a compromise in that vibration cannot be totally eliminated (any more than a car can have 'perfect' ride comfort!). The effect of heavy damping layers on thin timber panels is to place the remanant vibrational modes in the mid-bass 100-250 Hz range, where the worst they can do, if faintly audible, is add a modicum of 'warmth' to the sound."