Six DAC Comparison


I am in the middle of comparing the sound of six different DACs in my system. I own them all (I know weird) but one of them is still within a trial/return timeframe.

Not to share specific comparisons today, but a couple of observations so far are that first, they all definitely sound different from each other. On one hand, they all sound pretty good and play what is fed to them without significant flaws but on the other hand there are definite sonic differences that make it easy to understand how a person might like the sound of some of them while not liking others.

Second, raises the observation that most of them must be doing something to shape the sound in the manner the designer intended since one of the DACs, a Benchmark DAC3 HGA, was described by John Atkinson of Stereophile as providing "state-of-the-art measured performance." In the review, JA closed the measurements section by writing, "All I can say is "Wow!" I have also owned the Tambaqui (not in my current comparison), which also measured well ("The Mola Mola Tambaqui offers state-of-the-digital-art measured performance." - JA). The Benchmark reminds me sonically of the Tambaqui, both of which are excellent sounding DACs.

My point is that if the Benchmark is providing "state-of-the-art measured performance," then one could reasonably presume that the other five DACs, which sound different from the Benchmark, do not share similar ’state-of-the-art" measurements and are doing something to subtly or not so subtly alter the sound. Whether a person likes what they hear is a different issue.

mitch2

Agree with debjit_g, implementation is key. No doubt some optimized usb can be superior to less than optimized I2S. I've tried a wide variety of usb optimizations over the years, some better than others, same with dac implementation of usb. I'd suggest people look at the sophistication of usb implementation in my latest dac, Musetec MH-DA006, this not some cheapo chifi usb implementation, prior Musetec 005 used lesser Amamero implementation, Italians, 006 improves on this.

 

It is true external I2S clocking is not  theoretical best, clock is best closest to I2S pathway within dac. Still, external clock superiority could be such that downsides of clock distance are overcome. In any case max I2S cable length should be .5M, less would be better. I agree implementation of any clocking scheme is important, therefore, not all OXCO clocks or any clocks are equal. If going I2S route one should investigate quality of clock in dac vs clock in ddc or streamer.

 

By the way, there are some streamer manufacturers coming out with I2S outputs.

 

As to what output/input scheme is superior, I'll maintain I2S has some inherent advantages. Therefore, how can it be an advantage for the dac to have to extract data from clock, the same with conversion from usb or whatever to I2S native path.

 

Bottom line, all is conjecture until one has actually implemented these optimized  streaming chains into their system. My present I2S setup was a great improvement over my optimized over many years usb setup, this with three dacs, many others report the same. A prior less than optimal I2S setup I had many years ago was NOT an improvement over usb.

 

 

FYI, Aries Cerat, LampizatOr, and some other pretty good DACs use a JL Sounds USB interface, so the Mojo Audio DACs are in good company.

In the process of trying different DACs, I found the Singxer SU-6 DDC helpful in allowing me to use multiple types of inputs into the different DACs I tried. Now that I have zeroed in on one DAC for my main system, I will compare the USB out of my Signature Rendu SE Deluxe Optical streamer directly into the USB input of the Mystique X SE NCZ with using the AES/EBU and S/PDIF inputs into the X SE NCZ coming out of the Singxer DDC. Should be interesting.

@mitch2 yes, Lampizator switched from Amanero to JLSounds a while back. I have owned couple of Lampi models pre (Amanero) and post move to JLSounds and the JL indeed sounded cleaner and more natural as far as I remember. However, I have Musetec 005 which uses Amanero and like how musical the DAC sounds through the USB. Admittedly, we don't know how the Musetec will sound with JLSounds but how a DAC will sound through USB is not only based USB board it uses but the whole package - power supply, clocks, analog stage, the chip or R2R, etc. I have a X SE in house now and I am not ready yet to compare with others (as I have a bunch of other diy stuff burning in my system) but I like what I am hearing :-) At some point I have to wonder how the NCZ version will sound once things settle down.