Enough is Enough


I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1

Once upon a time of mine, long ago and at the west end of this country....

I was in the market for a new Toyota p/u.... Living in Oakland at the time, I visited a local dealer and got what I felt was a reasonable ask, but wanted to push the point and see if I could improve on a deal.

Visited a different dealer or three, who all came up with a number that was generally higher, the last claiming in it's ads they'd beat any other dealers' price.
When I mentioned the price quoted at my local dealer, he sniffed 

"Those n*****s will do that just to make a sale and screw you over anyway.."

I excused self to visit the restroom shortly, and sought the sales manager, and repeated the comment...."You ought to have fired that assh*le yesterday".. and left.

Yes, the local salesman was black, stayed on the quote, and the Toy was a 'runner' for our 10-ish years, sold to a buddy who, last seen, was still driving it.

Some salesfolk of the time should have been riding the trash trucks of the time on the back of it.

What I hope for in sales personnel is rationality and couth...If I dare 'waste one's time' it's to pay attention to the attitude of the F2F encounter v. the entity I've encountered....

Since then, I describe self as 'beige', not white....to the point of adding it on a form.

To quote Frank:  "I'm not black, but sometimes I wish I wasn't white...."

The truly white have to wear protection from the sun....and the condition is exhibited in all races....

Any audio sales shmuck that would imply that I ought to dump my happy collection of audio odd would and will get the same rough route from me.

Life is short enough as it is...and I'm closing in on the stub of it.

....and "heaven is in your mind..."

Know yours. 👍  Good luck, J

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I have been into audio for over 40 years and member of or part of audio clubs ion the east coast ,making recommendations , fine tune your Audio you don’t have to start from scratch.I can say yes maybe upgrade as I mentioned before a digital cable upgrade ,I just recently found a Gem in Tubulus Audio cables ,their Digital cables and a couple power cords ,truly kicked my very respectable system up a notch . I truly think the front end is slightly more important then the Loudspeaker ,Why for it is the first part of the Audio chain , once the signal goes down stream you Cannot make up the clarity or resolution , the Loudspeaker is second , everything counts though . I sell Denafrips Audio and their latest philosophy in their New Gen-15 series ,such as moving the Pontus to the previous Venus 12 th  which was just upgraded last year for Pontus money is a first ,

the same holds true for the new Venus 15 ,last years Terminator12, The New Terminator15  was the Upgraded Terminator plus , without charging Any increase in $$ in fact your saving well over $1k per product .and all were tuned even more so ..it’s a great strategy ,for each model can compete very well with the competition in their respective price categories.