Enough is Enough

20 years ago when I was just getting into high-end audio and had money to burn, my audio dealer talked me out of buying a new preamp." The world does not need a new preamplifier company, and you don't need a new pre-amplifier." He had not sold me my preamp and could have sold me a brand new one for more but he knew that I didn't need it. His son still carries on his business in Maryland years after he died and I'm always going to remember what an honest and thoughtful guy he was. So any dealer who tells me that I would have to start over is simply asking for money and not for trust.

Once upon a time of mine, long ago and at the west end of this country....

I was in the market for a new Toyota p/u.... Living in Oakland at the time, I visited a local dealer and got what I felt was a reasonable ask, but wanted to push the point and see if I could improve on a deal.

Visited a different dealer or three, who all came up with a number that was generally higher, the last claiming in it's ads they'd beat any other dealers' price.
When I mentioned the price quoted at my local dealer, he sniffed 

"Those n*****s will do that just to make a sale and screw you over anyway.."

I excused self to visit the restroom shortly, and sought the sales manager, and repeated the comment...."You ought to have fired that assh*le yesterday".. and left.

Yes, the local salesman was black, stayed on the quote, and the Toy was a 'runner' for our 10-ish years, sold to a buddy who, last seen, was still driving it.

Some salesfolk of the time should have been riding the trash trucks of the time on the back of it.

What I hope for in sales personnel is rationality and couth...If I dare 'waste one's time' it's to pay attention to the attitude of the F2F encounter v. the entity I've encountered....

Since then, I describe self as 'beige', not white....to the point of adding it on a form.

To quote Frank:  "I'm not black, but sometimes I wish I wasn't white...."

The truly white have to wear protection from the sun....and the condition is exhibited in all races....

Any audio sales shmuck that would imply that I ought to dump my happy collection of audio odd would and will get the same rough route from me.

Life is short enough as it is...and I'm closing in on the stub of it.

....and "heaven is in your mind..."

Know yours. 👍  Good luck, J

@carlsbad2, As per my PM TO You, Audiogon did Not ask me for a credit card to send you my PM. You said “you got your PM but audiogon won’t let me reply unless I give them a credit card”.

I do not understand why Audiogon asks you for a credit card. Please review.

@carlsbad2,

MY ABOVE POST IS INCORRECT!  You must have a verified phone number and payment method to send messages.

i checked my Audiogon profile and discovered I did have a credit card on file.  I removed it and can no longer send private messages.  I am investigating this. 

You can send all the dm's you want without having an on file payment method.

You just can't respond to any. If you want to respond, simply initiate a new dm.