Record Cleaning Machine ~ Ultrasonic vs. Rest


As title suggests, those of you who have switched to Ultrasonic RCM, did you find records that were previously suffered from dust and grime or noise now spins clean as whistle.

I am currently using a Pro-Ject VC-S2 with their recommended cleaning solution to clean my records which requires some efforts on my part. I don’t mind the process but still can’t get some of the records to play cleanly. Does this mean, user error or some records are just inherently noisy and buying an Ultrasonic machine like Degritter Mark II or KL Audio won’t make them play any quieter.

Did you find a process that works well for those stubborn noisy records. I don’t mind assuming the role of a pro dishwasher for handful of records..LOL!

At the end of the day, I am looking for this process to be fully automated thus my desire to consider an Ultrasonic machine that does it all.

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I bought a first generation Nitty Gritty back in the late '70s. It's a very effective machine, but rather noisy and messy in operation. It still works, although I only use it on the rare occasion that I need to play a dirty used record.

I bought a Klaudio US machine about 7 years ago, and it does pretty much everything I need of a record cleaner. It washes, it dries, and it does it with one-button convenience. It is amazingly effective and so easy to use that there's just no excuse for ever playing an unclean record.

Most new records are not truly clean, btw, and there's no way to get the best from an LP if you're relying solely on dry brushes to remove dust.

Whatever you choose, I think the best record cleaning protocol is the one you'll actually follow.

 

 

 

@lewm: The HW-16.5 does NOT have a bidirectional motor, the HW-17 does. The 16.5 is roughly square in shape (width and depth being about equal), the 17 rectangular (the width considerably greater than the depth). Assuming you have the 17, you can find the model number on the back of the machine.

 

Thank you all for thoughtful responses. It appears no one machine is capable of attaining desired results as some records will require extra steps to get the stubborn crud out. For that, I will continue to use my VC-S2. 

@dogberry 

It sounds like you have a highly effective cleaning process in place with both the Degritter and Loricraft working together. I do like your practical approach, understanding the limitations of cleaning and being prepared to rely on either machine if needed.

Loricraft RCM are indeed top notch but they are out of my budget. I am gravitating towards Degritter Mark II as it does supports rinsing records with clean water during washing cycles with the help of a separate water tank (2nd optional water tank needed). 

@cleeds I echo your point, best record cleaning protocol is the one you'll actually follow. I thoroughly wash and clean all my new purchases before putting them on the TT. 

BTW, @lalitk , do you know of the connection between Loricraft and Garrard (apart from current ownership)?

Terry O'Sullivan founded Loricraft Audio to manufacture plinths for Garrards, but later bought Percy Wilson's designs for a point-source vacuum cleaner and started making them as well. Later still he bought the rights to Garrard turntables after they went out of business in Swindon. He was based in Baydon, just a few miles from where I was born and grew up in Chiseldon, Wiltshire. A very helpful man and a delight to chat to. I hope SME keep up the standards.

Keep in mind that in some cases, there is no amount of cleaning that will eliminate ticks, pops, and all around poor audio quality that one gets from some LPs bought second hand.  There is such a thing as a worn out LP. Those I throw in the trash.