"Cleaning" Vinyl Makes It Worse Not Better!

I suspect some of the LPs that I was able to revive were casualties of bad prior cleanings, rather than kludgey tone arms on changers which caused groove chew.

Hi @whart , I completely agree. There’s a well-known vinyl store in Oakland CA that kind of specializes in jazz. Great LPs, but I noticed a lot of static pops on many I bought there. Proper cleaning and vacuuming only helped so much. The owner is a deeply knowledgeable guy who has participated in nearly every aspect of the record biz since the ’70s. But still. One day I watched him "clean" a batch of consignment LPs by rubbing a damp cloth around their surfaces. Aha! No wonder. As much as I want to support him, I stopped buying records there. Once those particles get cemented in, it’s very difficult to get them all out.

I've had a Degritter for about 3 years. It's a work horse and cleans well. Sometimes a record cleaned in the Degritter later picks up gunk and has to be cleaned again. There is nothing you can do about groove wear or even loud vinyl. There is no standard for how vinyl is made. Some of the new 180 gram records wear quickly. I think their vinyl is soft. Sometimes they just pick up gunk that can be cleaned off. Other times, they simply wear quickly. All that being said, I swear by the Degritter.

My VPI 16.5 and 17 vacuum RCM have never let me down.

Use the VPI fluid or the ‘L Art du Son fluid which is even better.

@vitussl101 I've used Mofi's Super Record Wash (nothing else with or added to it) in an US machine at room temp with excellent results.  While doing so, I've never allowed the fluid temperature to exceed 90 degrees Fahrenheit.  However, Mofi doesn't recommend using Super Record Wash in US machines.  I couldn't get them to tell me why or what's in Super Record Wash that makes it inadvisable for use in US machines.  Their Ultra Record Wash concentrate, which they say is specifically designed for US machines, is probably the same or very similar to Degritter's cleaning fluid or just the quadruple distilled water, very little Tergitol and whatever the hell an anti-static cleaning additive is.  You can make your own at a fraction of the cost.

@oldaudiophile  Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about. The newest product is sold in 1 oz bottles at twenty-five bucks a crack and you mix it with 3-4 liters of H2O, designed specifically for cavitation machines like the Degritter.