Subwoofers - Final Thoughts with Martin Logan ESL 13A

@navyachts yes I remember since I got the Wilsons right after I sold the MLs. It’s a completely different sound. The MLs were slightly warmer and darker sounding than the Wilsons. The Sabrinas are more open, more detailed and more realistic especially with music involving drums. It’s a more “live” sound than the MLs. Very transparent but not bright. Great clarity. 
Few items to note with Wilson speakers - they require top notch high current amplification, they are very sensitive to room acoustics and placement. But once properly setup they excel at every style of music vs. the MLs that favor vocals, jazz and acoustic music. 

Well you already sold your N200 so any conversation on the Bricasti network renderer vs. N200 is moot. But in any case….
The discussion you referenced is old and doesn’t apply to M1S2, M3 and M21. The newer generation of the Bricasti DACs have higher jitter on the network renderer than the previous M1SE. That’s one. Two - with the network renderer you’re limited to running Mconnect or Roon. The Mconnect option always sounded more “digital” to me. Roon sounded better but in a long run its rolled off and clinical/sterile sounding compared to Aurender. It was identical to Lumin U1 Mini though, and that streamer retailed for around $2,000 new…close to what Bricasti charges for their network option ($1500 if I’m not mistaken). One other thing - quickly switching back and forth between the Bricasti network card and Aurender may not reveal all of the differences you would notice if you spent a good amount of time listening to network card. As a matter of fact any A/B comparison done quickly is not a good way to do it regardless of what’s being compared, DACs, streamers, preamps, cables, etc.

Sometimes you won’t realize what’s missing until you spend time with one component before you reintroduce the other. Good news is you can always buy an N200 or any other dedicated streamer, or preamp. It’s all part of the game! Lol

@audphile1 +1!

Funnily enough, I just sold my Roon Nucleus, so using JRiver currently. Roon has a nicer user interface, that’s for sure, but I need to play around a some more and try to figure things out a bit better. 

Hey, the N200 was great, but I'm not sure, in my case, it was worth more than what I sold it for great.

I will get back to you when Doug Dale comments on the V configurations and their bass components.

Thanks for all the comments, have a grand weekend!

I have never understood the preoccupation with bass. For half a century we didn’t even have subs. When you listen to a live band do you experience the bass is missing? I just don’t get it. I have ML’s, and I have more bass than I need. This without a sub. End rant. 

You made the point precisely.  Not all home speakers are capable of reproducing bass the way you experience amplified instruments at a live show.  Most aren't.  Having multiple subwoofers gets you closer to recreating that experience and the visceral feel of a live kick drum or other deep bass notes.

@navyachts cool. May be worth giving Audirvana a try as well for comparison.