Do CD Transports benefit much from upgraded power cords?

@audphile1--Why? What's the point of listing my system and PC's that I have used. What information has been given that statistically proves that PC's have an impact on sound? I can tell you that my Personal Computer PC is special and it makes my computer runs faster than an 10 Ghz AMD processer--Is that proof??

You are all just grasping as straws here. I am glad you hear a difference but I have not and science dictates that I shouldn't. Again, I am not some ASR junkie, but I am a scientist, so I want some scientific rigor to substantiate your claims. 

@ghdprentice --Please. Talk about a biased opinion. They have some really neat tech that is applicable to Power Cords but statistical tests that prove that these cables make a sonic difference is lacking. Again, I would love to see a sonic uptick so I can further my journey--The proof is in the pudding so to speak. 

Kindest Regards,

@grunge1000 

Your hypotheses of all the variances in power that a power line goes through in it's 100s of miles journey presupposes variances in its power delivery, cleanliness and stability, so why would it matter by the time you get in at your outlet. 

If I'm mistaken about that, let me know. 

As for taking it upon myself to go and try it out at some of the many points in that delivery line to prove it is patently laughable, if not a down right silly thing to ask.

It's on you to go out and test your theories if you have any doubts. It's on you to prove members here wrong. There is no onus on anyone here to prove they hear a difference by measuring it as measurements aren't the only way to "hear" the differences.

None other than Stan Warren (formerly of PS Audio) told me back in the late '80s of clean power delivery, its source and how far along the line you are to get decent power at your outlet. It was more than conventional wisdom at the time. It's the way it's understood and is from that old scientific method, observing. This was before the proliferation of EMI from all manner of in home devices and outside forces. Where I live, in the San Fernando Valley, AT&T has been using the power lines as a way of transmitting up to 5Gs of info across the valley. To think that all is hunky-dory and none of that makes it down to your outlet is wishful thinking, at best. 

If you think measurements are the end all to be all, then I have a bridge to sell you. Maybe you'd get more agreement over at ASR, where everyone tends to think like you and consensus runs high over there for more of that group feel and reassurance. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Thanks Nonoise. I agree that AC power is dirty. I have invested $100,000+ over the years in cleaning up power in Ultra High Resolution Gamma Spectroscopy. I have seen the results first hand and I have the statistics that can back this up (un-filtered vs filtered spectral data). What I have not found is statistics relating to the use of $2000+ Power Cables, and how they make an observable sonic difference. 

Kindest Regards,

@grunge1000 In regards to $2000 PCs, I think you'll find most here, me included, in thinking it's overkill. I've only spent as much as $500 for some PCs and found easily discernible differences and at that point, called it a day and just listened from there on out. The old law of diminishing returns held sway over me and I don't regret not looking further into it. But bog stock PCs just don't cut it for me. 

All the best,
Nonoise

 

grunge1000

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12-29-2024 at 09:47pm 

@audphile1--Why? What's the point of listing my system and PC's that I have used. What information has been given that statistically proves that PC's have an impact on sound? I can tell you that my Personal Computer PC is special and it makes my computer runs faster than an 10 Ghz AMD processer--Is that proof??
 

1. I don’t even know if you have a system 

2. It’s clear you haven’t tried any power cords other than stock if you have a system at all

3. Science has been wrong on many occasions but that’s not the point

4. How do you measure details, clarity, precision of imaging, soundstage depth, height and width with an oscilloscope…please enlighten me what measurements define these aspects of listening experience? Can human hearing and interpretation of what we hear by our brains when it comes to tone, what we define as perfect sound, be measured by oscilloscope?
 

Two different power amplifiers with the same measurements will sound different when compared. Same goes for DACs. But when you measure at the output they measure the same. 

I already explained the components and cables ecosystem where EMI and RFI impact performance of the components plus each component will pollute the AC line. 
 

I’m not here to prove anything to you. It appears you’re not willing to give this any consideration. So from where I’m standing, this conversation is over. Enjoy what you have. But if and when you eventually crawl from under that rock you may discover you’ve been wrong all along. Take care.