Auditioned Wilson Sabrina X vs B&W 803D4 and Shocked


I recently auditioned the Wilsons vs. B&Ws and am a little befuddled. I had money in hand and was ready to purchase the Wilsons, but after reading the stellar reviews of the Sabrina Xs, I didn't think anything could compare in that price range. The source equipment was the McIntosh MC611s and the MC12000, which closely replicated my equipment. 

It was not even a close comparison; the B&Ws were clearly better in every aspect. The midrange was glorious, the highs were crisp, and the bass filled the room. The Wilsons were anemic with bass (roughly 14'x16'). The midrange was clinical, and the highs were nothing to write home about. I'm perplexed because Sabrina's bass output (per the reviews) belies its driver size. We even experimented with the 4 and 8-ohm outputs on the Macs.

Has anyone experienced something similar, or am I missing something (synergy, cabling, etc.)? I really wanted to love the Wilsons, but at $20K, I am not impressed. I know the B&Ws are $5K more, but I heard that Wilson is doing a price increase for 2025, which will level the price gap. I would love to hear about some experiences involving both brands or the discrepancies I heard in the presentations.  

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Dear @jeffreyw ;  I think that the Wilson ( I listened and listened the D3 not D4 B&W ) is not clinical and anemic it's that the B&W goes deeper in the bass and gives a little more " body " to the overall MUSIC presentation.

The other issue could be that the Sabrina just does not likes the Mackintosh auto-formers , me neither.

 

Both speakers designs are very good and each one needs to be mated with the " rigth " electronics and in a good treated room. The other issue is that each one of us have different MUSIC home targets in MUSIC reproduction.

 

TRegards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

The MAC needs to be on the 2 ohm tap for the wilson’s to be optimal but really should not matter.

I had the older 802D3 and the Sophia 3 in the same room/system for a direct comparison. On that day I liked the 802D3 better for similar reasons you mnetioned. But B&W can be hard to live with due to the peak in the mids and treble. They get fatiguing and harsh with some lesser music. I think I would enjoy the Wilson more longterm.

I have also heard the 803d2 and Sabrina, I think both needs subs and have some issues in their price range. There are better speakers out there for less money.

Wilson raising the price in 2025 lol… no thanks… I was once a wilson fan too but their prices are down right silly now for what is kind of average sound quality in their price range.

I suspect that the amp is the problem. Mac's "house sound" isn't a good match with the highly resolving Willies. 

It could also be speaker placement. Wilsons seem to come alive it the perfect placement- more so than others I've auditioned. 

Hi OP,

First, really happy that you found what you were looking for. If you put Mc + B&W together and you like that sound I doubt anything else would make you happy.

However, to me, this is a very colorful combination which I would not be happy with at all.

My experience with late model Wilsons is they have plenty of bass with the right amp in the right room when the resistors and jumpers are configured correctly. I doubt the Mc’s would be the right amp for them.

Not saying you should have bought Wilsons and Luxmans instead, but that your personal preferences kind of made your purchase inevitable.

I had the exact same experience! I was basically there to make the comparison and leave with the Wilson's, but ruled them out and moved on to compare the 803d4 to other speakers before getting them. I listened through Ayre equipment and tried a Mac source before switching to all Ayre. We changed speaker cables and interconnects, moved the listening chair, etc. All of these changes modified the wilson sound a bit more than the 803d4s, but in all variations my ears found the 803d4 to be much more realistic and true to the music. I think the Wilsons were great at what they did, but it was not the sound (in that room with that equipment) that I look for. Bands I have seen regularly sounded very precise but the singer sounded like someone with a slightly higher, drier voice doing an impression of them. Acoustic guitars sounded slightly tuned up and lost their earthiness, as if the air got taken out of the guitar body- but once again very precise and dynamic. Cymbals had a marvelous shimmer but the strike of the cymbal was presented as another instrument further back in the soundstage... i spent much of the time with the Wilsons following every instrument and sound throughout the room, but being distracted by guessing why each of them did not sound quite "right" to me. Perhaps a sub would have helped, but not in my room or budget. Until I saw your post I was thinking that it might have all been in my head, or a hearing issue. Regardless, I have been thrilled with my ultimate purchase, even in my non-ideal listening  room.