Location of compoments.


Hello,

I'm reading Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound". He notes that, if possible, do not locate your audio rack between the speakers, better off to one side. I would guess over 50% of audiophiles have their equipment exactly where he says it should not be placed. Needless to say, I would need 20' long speaker cables to reach the farthest speaker. Not very cost-effective or practical. 

Any thoughts? Do most have their electronics between the speakers?

 

lovehifi22

 

Yep @yoyoyaya, Townshend was playing a 6-sting Rickenbacker in ’68, but I seem to recall him taking it of for the last song, smashing a cheaper guitar instead. He rammed the headstock into the speaker cabinet, which if memory serves me was a Hi Watt. The speaker cabinet may have been a dummy, no drivers inside. The guitar made quite a racket, though.

John Entwistle was still playing a Fender bass, and proved himself to be an amazing player. Massive tone too, the best electric bass I’ve ever heard live. And then there was Keith Moon. A possessed madman I tells ya!

The show in '69 was them performing the whole Tommy album, no smashing of instruments.

 

My components sit directly on the vinyl tile covered concrete basement floor. It's a huge pain for the turntable but great for everything else. No vibration issues, no wobbly and expensive racks and no acoustic complications. 

Another scenario Jim Smith brings up with components in the middle are all the lights that are there. His point is that your trying to create a believable soundstage and all those lights are very distracting. You just end up staring at them. I tried it and for me it makes a big difference. I auto shutoff any display that I can, the rest gets covered with blu tack.

I find it hard to determine the non-obvious soundstage cues looking at anything- I can only do determine soundstage fine details, especially depth, with my eyes closed. Many times I hears the drums etc. are coming directly from the speaker, but after closing my eyes, and shaking the head to remove the memory of the speaker position, then focusing on the sound it turns the image is several inches left and a few feet back of the speaker, after opening my eyes to confirm. 

And speaking of lights, one of worst things someone can do is have a dimmer switch in the same circuit as the system. 

I confess I have a dimmer switch in my audio room, but the system is on its own circuit. The dimmer still throws noise into the AC, I know this, as well as all the other dimmer switches in the house, but haven't done anything about it yet. If it is off no noise will be produced, and I have gone back and forth listening with it on and off and if there is a difference it is small- much smaller than changing ethernet or digital cables. (Or having a 3 foot rack between but a few feet back of the plane the speakers.) At least the bulbs are old-school incandescents and not LED. 

I saw The Who a total of 5 times, but the first 3 times was when all members were alive.  I saw the North American Tours (here in Southern California) of Tommy (following shortly after the release of Live At Leeds), of Who's Next, and of Quadrophenia.  Most definitely, memories for life!

Regarding my system, presently my room is not ideal, and the speakers are with the TV centered and are about 1 1/2 feet forward of the TV.  My electronics are in the room directly behind the speakers with the speaker cables pulled through nicely finished portholes in the baseboard.  Great for isolating my turntable from the speakers, but the room and having a TV between the speakers really sucks.  Over the past few years my system has evolved well beyond the limitations of my sound room, and I am tired of such limitations.  My virtual system is not updated on this site.  However, I will update it later this year.  I have a good reason for that.  Over 2024 I decided to add on to my house, a dedicated sound room.  A lot of research and consultation for dimensions, construction type and materials, AC power design, etc.  "Breaking ground" should begin around late March.  My layout design for AC includes having the system on the side, with the amplifier between the speakers.  Thus, I will be using a long set of XLR cables and a short set of speaker cables.  And as mulveling stated, the equipment racks will be about even with my listening position (unfortunately not behind me).  2025 will be a very exciting year for me, developing the best listening environment for the best system of my life.

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