A question about trim rings around speaker drivers


I have seen over the years an increase in the use of decorative trim rings around speaker drivers that hIde the screws that hold the driver to the baffle, which makes them more attractive in the home environment. I don't have an issue with that, but I  learned a long time ago that at least twice a year, driver screws need to be tightened as they become loose from the vibration of movement. 

I was interested in a particular speaker by JBL that has black plastic trim rings, and I called two dealers as well as JBL to ask if these rings were easily removable by the consumer, and no one that I spoke with had the answer.

My question is: Do other members tighten their drivers on a regular basis, and are there members who have trim rings that they can't, or haven't tried to remove? I would be surprised if this was something that JBL or other manufacturers had not considered.  

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If you haven't you should. A driver is ideally supposed to act as a perfect piston, and if it is loose and shaking that isn't possible, and yes, it is very audible. I'm sure that there are members here who will say that they check them on aa regular basis.

Two years ago, I picked up a 2-year-old set of floor standing speakers from a man in California. He had a nice system and two other pairs of good speakers. When I got them home and checked the driver screws, each of them turned for at least two revolutions!  I Immediately emailed him and told him to check his other speakers. He did and wrote back to thank me. 

It's worth doing, but be careful not to over tighten.  You can also check the loudspeaker's binding posts.  They to can come loose.  It cost you nothing to inspect.

My GE speakers grills are very time consuming to take off, the speakers still sound the same as they did 7+ years ago and I will not fool with them.  If Locktite were originally used on the screws, I see no need to tighten them. 

@stereo5 

Do you know if locktite was used ? I've never seen it on any speakers I've had. If not, I'll guarantee that your drivers are loose.

I would say that we see more problems from over tightening bolts than under tightening them.  Most baffles made of a non resonant material are soft and can be compressed between a bolt and a driver frame, so it's normal for a bolt to "feel" loose.  It may not necessarily be so.  I have seen some speakers that are 10 years + old have a loose bolt or two- but I cannot recall anyone sending a speaker back to us for repair solely over these loose bolts.  I would say if they are tight by your hand, using only your fingers, that's enough. If you put a big long wrench on them and tighten them until you cannot tighten anymore, you've gone way too far.  I would expect tightening bolts with a big wrench twice a year will likely destroy the baffle in time; I have actually seen this in our ATC service department where we had to replace a baffle from over overtightened bolts.

One might jump to the idea then why not make the baffle metal or some other non compressible material?   Super hard baffles have other negatives (such as resonances) to deal with that can be far worse to sonics than a loose bolt.  

Lock tite makes it challenging to get the bolts off when to comes to replacing a driver.  Ive seen my service techs struggle over this too, even to the point of sawing the bolts off to replace a damaged or blown driver.

Brad