Beware, scammers everywhere


Man, it just doesn’t stop.   I list an amp here, and immediately get a response.   Some back and forth on price, then it gets fishy.  “My partner and I will overnight the payment, we just need name and address.  Refuses PayPal, will only send from his/her bank.  All this over text, which should have been the first clue.  
I suspect the next thing would have been “we accidentally sent the money twice, can you send it back to us?” or something similar.  Been down that road before.   

None of this was due to the Audiogon platform, scammers find a way to get pretty much anywhere and everywhere.  If it seems fishy, run away.   
 

winerocks

@jetter my feedback will always be zero. check for the same name elsewhere. You can figure it out pretty easily.

 

Having perfect feedback is important.  I've said for decades that a man only has one reputation.  It takes years to build it and only one bad deal to tarnish it.  Back when I had an ebay coin business I had perfect feedback over tens of thousands of transactions but had to bend over backwards a few times.

Hard RULE #1:  A Phone conversation prior to closing the deal. It's REAL easy to find out if the other party knows and understands the item at issue. 

@carlsbad2

My bad, I assumed that you were referring to this forum when you wrote

I recently sold a $3K used streamer to a fellow audiophile. It started out on the forum

@jetter  you assumed, but not wanting to make waves, I was purposely vague.

Yep ….. . they DO walk among us,


I use CAM and USAM with good results, but the low-lifes need to be excised there too.., All the major audio forums have their incidences.

It’s a common sense thing to hedge against the nuisance bottom-feeders.

(1) In God we trust….. everybody else pays cash.
Up here in Canada, we have our nation-wide major banks in a linked robust and secure banking system that makes EFT cash transfers a fast and ultra-simple bank account-to-bank account point & click instant fundstransfer….EZPZ.


(2) Cross-border / international deals are best served for me using PayPay and absorbing its fees as a relative accepted cost of insurance burden.

(3) If ,,,,absence of forum prior good positive feedback, and absence of priorforum participation postings; or recent new member sign-up profiles is an added harbinger for risk management caution, All responses to my ads on CAM are restricted to card-carrying members only,

(4) Regardless …. If buyers or sellers suddenly introduce kitschy new requests to do the deal ….then it’s a fast sayonara. If they press their BS any further, its a profane slang pejorative derived from Genesis 9:7 and a quick blocking out….full stop.