Beware, scammers everywhere

Yep ….. . they DO walk among us,

I use CAM and USAM with good results, but the low-lifes need to be excised there too.., All the major audio forums have their incidences.

It’s a common sense thing to hedge against the nuisance bottom-feeders.

(1) In God we trust….. everybody else pays cash.
Up here in Canada, we have our nation-wide major banks in a linked robust and secure banking system that makes EFT cash transfers a fast and ultra-simple bank account-to-bank account point & click instant fundstransfer….EZPZ.

(2) Cross-border / international deals are best served for me using PayPay and absorbing its fees as a relative accepted cost of insurance burden.

(3) If ,,,,absence of forum prior good positive feedback, and absence of priorforum participation postings; or recent new member sign-up profiles is an added harbinger for risk management caution, All responses to my ads on CAM are restricted to card-carrying members only,

(4) Regardless …. If buyers or sellers suddenly introduce kitschy new requests to do the deal ….then it’s a fast sayonara. If they press their BS any further, its a profane slang pejorative derived from Genesis 9:7 and a quick blocking out….full stop.

@akg_ca I agree that these low lifes do walk among us and never is it ever more prevalent than in social media dating websites. I have had good luck with a variety of transactions thru paypal and fleabay, though I havent bought anything thru ebay in a long time. I have found that most things available on ebay can be bought elsewhere less expensively. How to ensure your transaction is truly secure is nearly impossible. I try to stick to known businesses with a long track record of safe transactions. THough changes to the way outfits like Amazon associate with their suppliers is beginning to impact my level of trust in even these established businesses. It is a scary thing... bricks and mortar places are disappearing and online outlets are becoming less reliable, so what is left is fleamarkets I guess and totally cash transactions. Or at least that is the trend...

Had this happen to me the next day after listing some speakers on here. Someone reached out to me and asked me to text or call them to discuss. I have paid upfront for the add so no loss of commission for either party. The person and I discussed a lower price. They would send me a certified check and I said I would arrange for shipping and palletize them, based on their area code. Going back and forth with UPS to establish a price and came close, letting the buyer know that it was slightly above my listed cost based on research but would be willing to eat the difference of about $60.00. So I asked for their zip and they would NOT give me anything...name, address, nothing. Of course they had my phone number and address now. And said I didn't need their address since they were sending a driver with their company to pick the pallet up🤔. Wow, this must be a company or something. Turns out AGON and I had a discussion about it and this is a known scam. Once you get the money in your bank and the item is picked up by their service it's retracted from your account...and it's now a theft scam, and your item is gone. So, I cancelled the deal, blocked them and done😩.

Thanks for having my back AGON!

Had this happen to me the next day after listing some speakers on here. Someone reached out to me and asked me to text or call them to discuss. I have paid upfront for the add so no loss of commission for either party. The person and I discussed a lower price. They would send me a certified check and I said I would arrange for shipping and palletize them, based on their area code. Going back and forth with UPS to establish a price and came close, letting the buyer know that it was slightly above my listed cost based on research but would be willing to eat the difference of about $60.00. So I asked for their zip and they would NOT give me anything...name, address, nothing. Of course they had my phone number and address now. And said I didn't need their address since they were sending a driver with their company to pick the pallet up🤔. Wow, this must be a company or something. Turns out AGON and I had a discussion about it and this is a known scam. Once you get the money in your bank and the item is picked up by their service it's retracted from your account...and it's now a theft scam, and your item is gone. So, I cancelled the deal, blocked them and done😩.

Thanks for having my back AGON!

If I feel someone is sketchy, I’ll only take zelle or pp friends and family. Take it or leave it. If they look at my feedback, I’m completely trustworthy. They, on the other hand, have to prove they’re honest. I get lots of offers overseas and this is the only way I’ll sell to them. I’m completely covered. They usually don’t respond after I lay down my guidelines and I could care less. Stuff sells, it just takes patience and good negotiations with honest people.