ACTUAL MUSICAL SOUND VS. MEASUREMENTS


Is it just me or am I the only one that has had it with overly pushy audiophiles that push measurements as the end all be all. I’m not talking about healthy discussions on measurements but obnoxious ones that talk down to you because of the measurements of your system or equipment is not perfect for them? All cables and cords are snake oil to them if it doesn’t register on their meters? Am I the only that feels this way? 

calvinj

@toronto416 

 

+1 Yep. Sound quality of music... dozens of variables on inputs and dozens on outputs. So many that measurement tend to be such gross oversimplifications that they don't conform to the sound you hear a bit. 

 

There is a reason you get taught how to solve equations in one or two variables in school. Most complex situations are far more complex. 

physics and math might be absolutes, our understanding of the entirety of both ( and much more ) is what is VERY lacking…  i’m deeply involved in the bleeding edge of quantum computing…. oh how easy it…could be… 

This turned out to be quite the thread.

Just out of pure curiosity, I wonder how many people on this thread are members of organizations such as the Audio Engineering Society (A.E.S.), or related groups such as the Acoustical Society of America (A.S.A.) or similar.

I guess the broader question is how many people on Audiogon belong to such societies.

Thanks in advance,

Mark

It's not just you.

Measurements have their place in designing audio gear. But on the music enjoyment front, the only test instruments that matter are ears + brain.

@desktopguy 

 

+1 As a starting point... then to get right sound the designer swaps subcomponents and  listens to differences. Great designers know "the sound" of different brands of subcomponents (like resistors, capacitors... etc.) and can make choices while designing to craft sound they want.