Would I be wasting my money to get a turntable?


I am thinking about getting a turntable but I have a Class D amplifier (Nad M33) which digitizes all the analog inputs. If the amplifier is just digitizing the source is there going to be any difference between the vinyl and just listening to lossless digital streaming sources? Is there any benefit to me, given my current amplifier with has no analog pass through capability, to adding a turntable to my system?

fritzenheimer

garbage in = garbage out no matter the source. Just like there are garbage LP's, there are garbage streams as well.  Sometimes they are the same thing. 

So your m33 converts everything to digital, so what? Vinyl will sound like vinyl, just with a digital edge? Don't know until you try it. Might be awesome.

Vinyl is what got me back into audio a couple years ago. Have always had a stereo, but it turned into HT a couple decades ago, was always ok with music. My girl is into records, we decided to get a dedicated 2ch setup.

Got the standard $500 TT, upgraded that all the way, including a $400 cartridge. Then splurged on a $2000 TT with a $700 cartridge. It's been blissful. Except for when I destroyed the new cartridge needle after getting it caught on a towel after cleaning the TT, that was a $500 ouch. My point is, TT is all analog, it requires a lot of maintenance, attention and setup. 

Now we move on to records, yes, they are expensive and going up! 2 years ago, new records were $20-25, used would be $10-30 (on average) Now all new records are $30-35, used start over $20. They take up a LOT of space. Now you got all these records, you got to keep them clean (lots of time and money) get a ultrasonic cleaner $1000, then get new sleeves for the outer and inner record, you are not going to put clean records in dirty selves. expect to spend about $2 per record for that. 

Records are a labor of love, they take a lot of time, effort, and dedication. They change how you listen to music. As you tend to spin a record, and listen to the entire album. Oh, you get up every 20min to change it. 

We haven't even touched on sound quality, on my system vinyl sounds better over streaming, but I have a vintage setup, with a lower end streamer. Feel you got to spend at least the same or a little more on the TT setup to get the same level as your digital. 

 

Some of the responses on this thread are wild. $50-100K to build a good vinyl collection?! That's 1000 albums at $50 each! That certainly could be an enviable collection (depending on the music) but is not required to enjoy having a turntable. 

I just got back into analog and am greatly enjoying myself. I certainly have not spent anywhere near $100K on my vinyl collection.

Even though, IMO, I think a turntable analog system almost universally sounds better than digital, that's only half of the joy for me. 

Collecting the vinyl, enjoying the album art, the tactility of playing the album, all add to the experience for me in a positive way. 

I stopped listening to music often in my system and was basically just using it for videogames or movies for a long time when streaming was my only source. 

Analog has me excited again to listen and enjoy. 

I would say, with your amplifier, while you may or may not experience a jump in SQ, the connection to the physical media and music might be worth the money.  

There's something special for me when removing a favorite album off the shelf for a listen. YMMV.  

@grislybutter , et al.-

Here is the lowdown on how this thing works.

It only digitizes an analog input signal if you’re running something like BluOS and want to send it to another system that can receive it which obviously requires a digital signal. If you’re not doing that and just using it for straight up 2 channel by itself, analog inputs are not digitized and they stay unmolestedly analog. Can't speak for any other amp, but that's the scuttlebutt around the barbershop on this one. So, with that knowledgeable information in hand (if it is indeed accurate), we can safely conclude that yes, you can enjoy that sweet analog turntable sound through it.

Now, someone riddle me this; if the album you just bought was pressed from a digital source, is there even a point in playing it?

Yes, in another thread I asked why it is that an LP made from a digital source often sounds good.  Frequently better than what might have started out years ago as an analog master tape.  The answer is all in how the mastering engineer works his or her magic.  I have many examples of digital master tapes as the source used to make Redbook CDs, LPs, high res files and DSD.  The end result can be satisfactory in any format.