Linn LP12 turntable


I was in my favorite audio store yesterday talking turntables… Rega P10, MoFi MasterDeck etc, when he stated he had a Linn LP12 he was selling for a customer at $2,400 & the customer had $14K (with upgrades) into it. Intriguing, but knew nothing about Linn. After my research, people seem to love it or hate it. But it is installed in many fine audiogon systems. 
I would like your thoughts and recommendations. 
I have asked the following questions of the dealer: 

1. Date of production 

2. Upgrades that have been added 

3. Power supply / tone arm

4. Condition 

5. Recently serviced

I have not yet seen it, but it is there now. What other questions should I ask?

My current analog system: 

Pro-ject 1xpression carbon classic with Hana ML

Rega Aria

PS Audio BHK pre

Simaudio Moon 330A amp

KEF R11’s

Advise would be greatly appreciated. 

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OP, I agree with you 100% that using an internal phono stage to do a A to D conversion is not ideal. Much better to have a stand alone phono stage that is all analog. ( which is why i use a CAT all tube phono stage).

 

The new Bedrok plinth is being discussed on the Linn based forums. It is the shape of the current plinth, without the radius corners of the 50th Anniversary model.

The asking price makes me question who would swing for it? There are options in tables that would be more adaptable to far superior arms ( this is the main area that i think Linn has been left behind with...their Ekos-SE is an old war horse that is well past its sell by date) that are now in reach price wise.

 

Presumably, ’if’ and when Linn does get around to replacing the Ekos-SE with a more competitive arm, the price will be jaw dropping! Certainly going by what they hope to get for the new Bedrok plinth. IMO, someone in their marketing department might must know something about their customer base, that the rest of us do not.

@newton_john

Those buying second hand gear!

 

Lemme tell ya, them guys ain’t dumb

Get your ‘stuff’ for (nearly) nothing and your ‘kicks’ for free!

 

 

@daveyf 

I usually agree with your posts, but you're wrong about analogue to digital conversion being less than ideal.

The Urika II in conjunction with a Klimax DSM sounds a lot better than the original Urika with a Klimax Kontrol. 

 

I’ll throw in my experience with  my LP12. Bought a Majik version and have upgraded all components to where it’s equivalent to the Klimax- about $20k. Owned an AR XA back in the day. The ONLY downside to the TT is its susceptibility to footfall. I really had to work on this in my house  w P&B foundation. After going all upgrades, the suspension & power supply impacted SQ the most. Next was moving to a audioquest phono cable over the stock cable. I went to Lyra Kleos and couldn’t be happier with it. I have a new Krell (SS) phono pre which was a nice improvement. 
 

good question great thread

@newton_john I am no fan of any of the Linn phono stages. The Original Urika is, IMO, nothing special. So, when you went from a Urika to a Urika 11, you still are not hearing what a great analog ( and IME preferably a tube) phono stage will offer. YMMV.