Directional wires/cables


Is there any reason to support the idea that cables, interconnects or any other kind of wiring can be considered directional? It seems that the theory is that carrying current will alter the molecular structure of the wire. I can't find anything that supports this other than in the case of extreme temperature variation. Cryo seems to be a common treatment for wire nowadays. Extreme heat would do something as well, just nothing favorable. No idea if cryo treatment works but who knows. Back to the question, can using the wires in one direction or another actually affect it's performance? Thanks for any thoughts. I do abide by the arrows when I have them. I "mostly" follow directions but I have pondered over this one every time I hook up  a pair.

billpete

I’ve referenced this I don’t know many times over the years. The article is from 1993. Old yes. Wires have been around a lot longer than that.

Actual measurements for those that say, "If it can’t be measured then it can’t be true."

After measuring the first two products (the PS Lambda and the Panasonic SV-3700), I went back and repeated my measurements to make sure the analyzer was giving consistent results, and that my test setup was correct. When I remeasured the SV-3700, I got about half the jitter than when I first measured it!

What caused this reduction in measured jitter?

Changing the direction of the digital interconnect between the transport and the jitter analyzer.

This phenomenon was easily repeatable: put the cable in one direction and read the RMS jitter voltage, then reverse the cable direction and watch the RMS jitter voltage drop. Although I’d heard differences in digital-cable directionality, I was surprised the difference in jitter was so easily measurable—and that the jitter difference was nearly double.

To confirm this phenomenon, I repeated the test five times each on three different digital interconnects. One was a generic audio cable, the other two were Mod Squad Wonder Link and Aural Symphonics Digital Standard, both highly regarded cables specifically designed for digital transmission. The generic cable wasn’t directional: it produced the same high jitter in either direction. But both the Wonder Link and the Aural Symphonics had lower jitter levels overall, but different jitter levels depending on their direction. Moreover, the generic cable had higher jitter than either of the two premium cables—even in the latters’ "high-jitter" direction.

Fig.8 shows the jitter difference between cable direction in Wonder Link using the Panasonic ’3700 as the source (the difference was about the same in the Aural Symphonics). Note that, at these high levels, small differences in the trace are significant. Between "10m" and "0.1" on the vertical scale, each horizontal division is 100ps. The overall RMS jitter was 4050ps with the Wonder Link connected in one direction, and 2700ps with the cable reversed.

https://www.stereophile.com/features/368/index.html

JMHO, there can’t be an honest discussion of cable directionality if one believes the signal travels back and forth from the source to the load. Especially at near the speed of light in a vacuum.

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@jea48  Thanks a lot for posting the results from that article.  As per my previous post I inadvertently installed my digital cable backwards once and my system literally sounded broken until I figured it out and installed it correctly.  It was not subtle at all, but until now I hadn’t seen anything that explained technically why I clearly heard what I did.  Those who poo poo the directionality of cables can go pound sand.  It’s a real thing. 

@jea48 -

Does the green arrows represent the signal traveling from the source to the load through the dielectric insulation?

Is the EM wave the signal, or does the EM carry the signal? Or is the signal embedded in the EM wave?

  

         I'm certain you've seen a 60Hz AC trace on an O-scope.

         As you're aware: that's (basically) a picture/capture of a 60Hz, sinusoidal electrical wave and what's being driven, when combined with its corresponding magnetic wave (resulting in Poynting vector's direction) from source to load*.

         Were it the DC voltage/current, from an amp's power supply, modulated by the amp's output devices, into an amplified musical signal; it would appear much more complex, but: still a sinusoidal wave.

                      *outside the dielectric, in the discussed model

          That voltage potential exists, outside of a hot AC lead's conductor/cabling, even without a closed circuit, is why a non-contact voltage detector can work.

                                    Hope some of that helps.

                                           Happy listening!

@jea48

I believe that’s why Teflon, for one, is used instead of cheap PVC insulation.

Other than a vacuum, the best dielectric is air: Check out the construction of Inakustik and their very transparent communications regarding audio cable construction. They even have webinars to signup for free to further people’s understanding.

 

https://in-akustik.com/blog/how-to-improve-hifi-sound-quality

 

Scroll down to see their video explanation on directionality:

https://in-akustik.com/cosmos/know-how/faqs-hifi-cables/

 

@rodman99999,

Thanks.

Were it the DC voltage/current, from an amp's power supply, modulated by the amp's output devices, into an amplified musical signal; it would appear much more complex, but: still a sinusoidal wave.

                      *outside the dielectric, in the discussed model

Complex is an understatement.

I can't understand how anyone could think the signal could travel back and forth in the wire.

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That voltage potential exists, outside of a hot AC lead's conductor/cabling, even without a closed circuit, is why a non-contact voltage detector can work.

The electric field around the wire.

Without the electric field around the wire a non-contact voltage detector Couldn't work A closed circuit is not needed either.

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