Are Headphones Fit for Serious Music Listening?


Not for me they’re not, but I welcome and appreciate that they might be for you. Here’s why:

First, I am aware that extraordinary headphone gear exists out there, rivaling the best of 2-channel gear.

Second, I do own headphones myself. They’re Bowers & Wilkins; I think they’re a pretty decent set. They live in my gym bag because I listen to podcasts with them.

As I rejoin the audio fold, it becomes more and more clear to me that different folks experience music in different ways, leading them to different head spaces and different beliefs and different corners of this hobby. Yes, that much should be self-evident, yet many people don’t seem too aware of it; they think their way is the way, and they’re quick to dismiss other people’s points of view, sometimes in terms that can be unpleasant to witness.

The number of fruitless arguments we see around here could be greatly reduced if folks respected the diverse ways in which other folks consume, appreciate, enjoy, and love their music, and agreed to disagree.

Back on topic - i strongly believe that - for me - music is to be felt as well as heard.

I’m not necessarily talking about 115 dB peaks and wall-shaking electronic sub-bass, though that’s fun too. I’m talking about the tangible, tactile quality of tight, well-controlled bass that envelops the entire head and is felt in the chest as sound waves radiate, deep inside the chest if one’s amps + speakers couple allows it.

I’m listening to A Tribe Called Red’s Nation II Nation album as I write this. VC is on 35 out of 100, probably no louder than 70 dB, yet I distinctly feel the waves of tribal drumming hit my body, in ways wholly unrelated to my hearing sense yet deeply complementary to it.

And there you have it: headphones, by definition, don’t / can’t give this to me, so - for me - headphones don’t work for serious music listening. But they’re great for podcasts.

How about you guys? How do you experience your music, and how loud do you like it?

 

devinplombier

Thank you all for the great feedback. Love to hear from folks who have gone the journey and speak from a wealth of experience.

I watched the RAAL SR-1A video review @yyzsantabarbara linked. I liked the reviewer: he seemed passionate, unpretentious, and a far cry from those YouTube reviewers who seem to piggyback ADHD prescriptions from half a dozen doctors.

The reviewer talked about pairing the open-baffle, "earfield monitors" RAAL with a sub, and I was intrigued by that idea. Assuming the latency issue between ultrafast ribbons 1 inch from the ear and comparatively slow cone woofers six or eight feet away is addressed, that could bring together the best of both worlds, so to speak.

Has anyone tried supplementing headphones with a sub or subs?

 

Reading any headphones reviews at any price make me realize how lucky i am with My AKG K340 (100 bucks but modified)...

The soundfield is not in my head but i felt like in front of good speakers and the big organ bass note are deep and clear so much i can be moved physically (bone resonance)...

 

 

@devinplombier I have used a sub with the SR1a. At one time I had my KEF KC62 sub on a bar stool near my ear level. I was just trying the sub on the stool for kicks. I now have the sub on the floor.

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The KC62 sub is fast and can keep up with the fast SR1a. This sub is for music and not HT. It was good and definitely added to the low end of the phones since the SR1a is open. However, one of the reasons I use the SR1a is so as not to disturb others late at night and a sub booming away does not help keep it quiet.

I used to own the RAAL CA-1a and that was not an open baffle headphone and had a lot more bass and was a RAAL ribbon phone. However, I gave that to a family member since I do not miss the bass on the SR1a and the only purpose it served was that I could listen in my bed with the CA-1a and not the SR1a. The review I linked to explained how the SR1a moves around if you bend your head too much.

I am friends with Danny Mckinney who was the co-designer of the SR1a with Alex in Serbia. Danny recently told me that he is designing a bass module specifically for the SR1a. Something similar in execution as how I used my KC62 sub. Danny is about to release an open baffle 2-channel speaker, and it was an incredible sounding unit. The bass was the best I ever heard. He is going to use the same bass driver for the SR1a bass module.

If you are interested in getting the SR1a send me a DM and I can help advise the amp to drive it. The SR1a is a bright phone so care is needed. I have the best amp for it, the RAAL VM-1a. However, relatively soon there will be new competitors for that title.

Over the past 5 years, I did amp rolling for the SR1a. I loved this phone so much that I wanted to get the best sound from it. I must have spent $40k (but sold about $30k). It is a lot easy these days because of a new amp adapter called the RAAL TI-1b, when I amp rolled that device did not exist.

There is also the $7k - $10k RAAL Immanis that is considered by most the best RAAL phone. It is not open baffle like the SR1a, so I like the SR1a more. However, the Immanis is a tour de force and on my radar because I no longer have the CA-1a. The bass on the Immanis is supposed to be as good as it gets for headphones. I had this phone in my home for about a week and the bass was terrific.

 

 

I've always been interested, but I no longer have the disposable income that I once enjoyed, so therefore what I do spend is pretty much to improve the 2 ch system that I do have.  But still, I am interested.  

For me, headphone are for someone who cannot enjoy a full-range audio system at home, or doesn't have the cash, and that's okay, but only for them, not me.

I cannot imagine, even as good as they can be, why one would prefer headphones unless they want to listen in an apartment late at night. I did break down and buy noise cancelling earbuds for flights and listening when I am away from home.