Anybody having trouble getting near-your-asking-price for used gear ? (Plz. no hype)


I buy and sell gear "on a whim" and have done so for 40 years. Mostly high-end tube stuff that I get an itch to move from my rig to make room for other high-end stuff that I have been dreaming of.  It's fun and gives me a fresh faces to fall in and out of love with.

Lately I am having a really hard time getting any serious offers above 1/4 to 1/3 of retail- actually zero offers over that. And winter is the time of year gear sells. Once the sun comes out things get really quiet.  Not terribly long ago I could ask 50% of retail and get serious offers pretty close to the ask.  

I am especially having trouble selling ARC gear. It's prices are steadily collapsing. On HiFi Shark that stuff sits for close to a year (or more) before it moves.  For example SP 15s are under 2K now. They were selling (not asking) at 3K a year ago. It took me almost a year to sell a new-in--box I/50 for $3000 (!)   Ref 75s are moving under $3000 and TMR will only offer 2K for one of them. The older stuff is selling in the hundreds not the thousands. Top-Of the-line stuff like Reference 10 preamps are moving under 12K (asking is around 17K) 

I recently sold a Bryston BR-20 brand new in the box and it took me 7 months to get 48% of MSRP.  This is NEW stuff- not somebody's junk. 

My guy at Magnepan told me their stuff is really moving slowly as well. He blamed it on the political environment. ARC is pretending all is well but I have a little birdie inside there that tells me their stuff is stagnant as and dealers are actually cancelling orders. 

Now, assuming you are being honest and not "fluffing the market" with bullbleep because you have something for sale and hoping for the greater fool,  are you seeing/experiencing the same thing I am experiencing? 

NO RETAILERS PLESASE- you guys tend to "exaggerate" to put it kindly- plus most of us here at AG know who you are and your 1000s of posts are a big clue. 

Signed/ Depressed about my favorite side gig. 

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Ha! Well I still buy and sell and others will. Just doing it far less. It is a matter of degree. We all agree the number of Aphiles is small. If we are buying 50% less often, then…..

We older folks still need to unload extra gear while we slow down and simplify. Your point is still valid in that I see the market for new and used gear continuing to slow over the short and long run. We are witnessing, in real time, this truth.  

Harboring unreasonable price expectations is definitely a problem. Platforms are clogged with six-month-old or year-old or even older listings like overflowing toilets. 

Meanwhile, listings that are priced competitively still sell within a couple of days.

Something happened three or four months ago:  the bottom dropped out for excellent used equipment. 

Post election, many things related to people's sense of stability are up in the air.  This seems to be causeing people to be skittish with their disposable income.  What do I mean?

Inflation appears not to be under control as the cost of many staples that people need ever day do not seem to be dropping.

Now, add to that the daily talk of what tariffs will do to automobile, lumber, home, and grocery prices and people are even more concerned that they will have less disposable income for the rest of the year.

And yes, with the stock market and people's investments/401k's being reduced, the result is increased resistance to spending.

If you are selling an audio product on one of the forums that is not in perfect condition, that is not very mainstream in looks, that is not one of the highly sought after brands, that is expensive to ship, that you no longer own the packaging, that is not generating a lot of recent buzz....prepare to get hammered because the market for most "disposable income, hobby, recreational related purchases"  is down and will take some time to recover...maybe months, maybe years...depending on when people's confidence and savings/investments recover.

In the mean time, there is always TMR for those who can't or won't wait.

the tariffs will increase prices for all audio, not just from Canada and it will drive companies out of business. We consumers will have fewer choices and increased prices without any gain..