Maybe critical listening skills are bad?


In another thread about how to A/B compare speakers for a home I was thinking to myself, maybe the skills a reviewer may use to convey pros and cons of a speaker to readers is a bad skill to use when we evaluate hardware and gear?

I'm not against science, or nuance at all.  I was just thinking to myself, do I really want to spend hours A/B testing and scoring a speaker system I want to live with?

I do not actually.  I think listening for 2 days to a pair of speakers, and doing the same to another pair I need to focus first on what made me happy.  Could I listen to them for hours?  Was I drawn to spend more time with music or was I drawn to writing  minutiae down?

And how much does precise imaging really do for my enjoyment by the way?  I prefer to have a system that seems endless.  As if I'm focusing my eyes across a valley than to have palpable lung sounds in my living room.

Anyway, just a thought that maybe we as consumers need to use a different skill set when buying than reviewers do when selling.

erik_squires

I am a huge fan of music have been for as long as I can remember. I have thousands of song lyrics in my head. Ive been told I have an audio-graphic memory. Meaning I remember what I hear and I can mimic it. It's why i speak other languages like a native. But for the life of me I have never understood what transients are, or decay or holographic 3D effect or even what slam means.  I have a good system that I think plays really well.  But reading here and listening to reviewers online I dont ever hear what they describe. I recently went thru a play list of music a speaker maker Sibelius. He had 10 songs that he uses to rate systems. Each had a specific trait that allowed him to rate the systems capabilities. I went thru each song listening for what he was hearing. <shrug> I guess I kinda heard those things. I didnt get the classical music traits or the wacko organ music but it sounded good to me. Granted I just have a regular room but everything he described as what makes a good system i heard like 40% or maybe I did hear them and didnt recognize them for what they were. All this to say and to ask. How do you know when you have arrived? I like my system. It does well with all genre and I hear things before that i havent heard from music Ive listened to all my life. Should I just shut up, relax and enjoy the music? Or am i on the precipice of miraculous sound and I just dont realize it? I think  this ruins my enjoyment more than anything. Knowing I have good gear but my setup etc my be hamstringing the entire thing. Ahh well

When any system gear at any price is well installed and well acoustically optimized ,then you know it because your critical listenings skills are put to sleep, they are no more necessary.

Not because your system is the best in the world, but because any well acoustically well balance speakers/room experience is highly satisfying in itself.

What irritate us is a system which awake our critical listening attitude because we perceive clearly an unbalance set of factors,..

If we adress them and takes care of the acoustics problems, our critical attitude go to sleep and we listen music not sound defects.

Any system gear/room at any price well done will gave pleasure...

Acoustics rules audio... Sorry for the sellers of gear upgrades...

i could upgrade my 1000 bucks system (not the headphone it is the best in the world ) i dont need and dont want to... I call that the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold...

My budget is limited and i must listen nearfield with small speakers now. but i felt no limitation, because it is OK acoustically for timbre, holography etc...

my top system choice anyway for music now is my headphone which beat most speakers system save top speakers in top room .

 
 

 

 

"Truth is not popular."

Way too true, and that in itself is even less so. Anything that malleable in the day to day light of day in the HO of any given scenario can create a memory of commonality fractured by view and expression given of an impression.

Reality in itself seems to have a slippery substance, right down to the quantum level...one can only hope ’this is where the Edge IS!"

But I’m beginning to doubt that as well.
Does that change how I listen and judge what I perceive from any given arrangement of items playing what may or not be sounds in a pattern I’m not personally familiar with?

Well, Maybe.
Is it engaging, skillful, can you dance to it? Does the gear make it sound like looking at a fishbowl or on the edge of a stage?

You can go with this....

...or you can get on with that.

Me?
I’m going to look @ moon red of bent light.

Dress warm.

I have expressed this before, so forgive the redundancy. I am a Cognitive Psychologist and spent most of my professional life (now retired) measuring people's perceptions of products and correlating those perceptions with product design features to help designers and engineers improve the experience of their products.

It is important to consider that there are two different types of perception. One is based upon the a physical description of a given product and the other is based upon the emotional response of "liking" the product. Typically, two different types of people are used to obtain each of these perceptual judgements. Physical descriptions (probably what corresponds to critical listening) are typically provided by trained experts with proven sensory skills. "Liking" is provided by the perceptual judgements of untrained consumers who are the target audience for the product. The interesting finding in such research is that not all physical qualities to which experts may be attuned correlate with liking. In the end, product developers need only attend on those physical qualities that are associated with what the target audience likes. 

Now, sitting at home the target audience is a sample of one, you. So, the first question is, do you like it? Secondly, it is probably helpful to know why you like it if you want buy things that improve liking in the future. For that you need to know what physical qualities are unique to that experience. You, the listener, might or might not have the perceptual skills to do that. Either way, the first question is, do you like it?

Maybe it’s just me,  but the longer I try to AB things, the things start to sound the same. Sure, some equipment sounds night and day different, but when the equipment sounds close from the start, it really blends after a few back and forths, I can no longer hear the differences.