Disagreements and Conflicts between Audiophiles have we lost our brotherhood and maturity?


I looked back over my posts and even my audio business dealings over the last 5 years and it seems like we have lost our ability to peacefully disagree or resolve disputes like grown men. Some of my best friends in this life are audiophiles and I enjoy the gear, the music and the brotherhood. I don’t enjoy the senseless spats. The inability to resolve conflicts and the people trying to destroy peoples business and reputations. Thoughts? 

calvinj

For the most part, the people you are referring to are not audiophiles. Some people hate the concept of high end audio so much, they take time out of their lives to hate it. How do you debate someone like this? You can't. Its not a level playing field. When it comes to audio components, someone like you can be skeptical in a healthy way because you're just after the truth. Once you have it figured out, you take what you learned and apply it in any way it helps you.

The haters can't do that because they're not after the truth. They don't WANT the high end gear to make a difference. You can't compete with that and its why these debates never end. For them, its about emotions, not audio equipment.   

Interesting discussion.  I am a relatively new member of this forum.  One of the reasons I joined is that the topics involve music and equipment and that comments are mostly positive and constructive.  I have moved away from other sites because a lot of the topics have to do with politics and too many of the posts are negative and not helpful.  I find this hobby brings me joy and peace.  It’s an escape from the chaos in the world.  I think it’s up to each of us to remember why we got into this hobby in the 1st place, enjoy our musical journeys and help make this a positive forum.

The arguments and snark don't keep me off this site. I don't contribute a whole lot but I still get useful information and enjoy the daily updates in my email inbox when I wake up.

On another note, it is interesting to contrast Audiogon to other sites that have a different angle like Audiokarma. I haven't viewed that site for awhile, and while I do remember some bickering, they don't seem to have blowups like this one.

Calvin

You obsesses over this stuff to much.  
The Internet tends to promote some online rudeness.  It isn’t unique to audiophilia. And then yes, audiophiles tend to be imo a bit grumpy.  We like to sit and listen and this tends to be a solitary activity that doesn’t welcome interruptions.

There is a lot of subjectivity -I think A sounds better than B- which tends to promote unresolvable bickering .  And there tends to be a lot of envy in terms of the levels that people can spend.

   Given all of the above this is a reasonably civil site.

 

   Personally I thank you for dropping the all caps in your thread titles.  All caps tend to fire my adrenal glands