Background vibration and your system.


I have been interested in vibration and its effect on my audio system for probably forty years. I remember getting some platforms with inner tubes that had to be pumped up with a bicycle pump very early on. Well, I think they may have helps a little... but pumping them up drove me crazy. Since them I have used pucks of all kinds, and Black Diamond Racing composite platforms and cones, springs, and the best has been the Silent Running Audio Ohio Class vibration platform that I had made specifically for my Linn LP12... which was well worth the price. 

I used to be a geologist. So, I have wanted to get a seismograph for a long time. About a  year ago I purchased one. It is on the Raspberry Shake network with thousands of others. They have confirmed the correlation between times of day and remote events being transmitted into the house. Evenings and especially Sunday nights tend to be the quietest. I have seen thunder claps, cars and trucks driving by being recorded as well as not too hard footfalls on my concrete floor.  

On the map below, you can see the Pacific Northwest. Each icon is a seismograph that can be viewed.  The red dots are small earthquakes which can be seen and correlated with the recording of any of the seismograph by clicking on a red dot and then the seismograph. This page has a tremendous amount of different functions if you just explore it. 

I recommend folks that are interested, move around the map and find one close to your house. You may be surprised how much activity there is. 

 

https://stationview.raspberryshake.org/#/?lat=45.65013&lon=-122.52066&zoom=8.511

 

ghdprentice

@erik_squires - There has been research resulting in useful products like those from Townshend, SRA, and other companies that many here benefit from. The most prevalent applications have probably been in mitigating vibrations acting on turntables.

On the flip side, IMO there are also products marketed using pseudoscience and/or exaggerated claims, which muddy the water.  As you indicate, the absence of documented research has left the audio equipment industry without consistent/uniform vibration measuring processes and baselines.

Regardless of the application, the principles are consistent and solutions involve various implementations of mass, springs, and damping as presented in this link and this link.  However each application is unique depending on what is being isolated, and from what vibratory source.

In our audio world, springs are successfully used like Townshend platforms or the inner tube discussed earlier, which is an air spring.  Commonly used elastomeric footers are also a form of damped spring. Many audiophiles mass load with brass or other materials, and many types of turntable stands and platforms seem to be successful at mitigating the effects of vibrations. However, without clearer documented research and guidance it is mostly a trial and error endeavor in the audio world.

 

 

There is a pretty cheap fix for vibration actually.

Low durometer (about 30) sorbothane pucks...There's a website out there for correct weight distribution on it. Yes,  it will stick and stain if you don't do the following....get a plastic bag, cut 2 pieces of the plastic out of it and sandwich the sorbothane puck between..to prevent staining, etc...Works way better than some vulture priced crap.

I've noticed some big improvements on dacs.

if the tremors  caused settlement/foundation issues, etc, you have other bigger problems besides hifi to worry about, of course.

 

@deep_333 - I switched from spikes to Herbie’s products, to damped springs and then to these platinum silicone elastomers, which can be easily sized for the equipment or speakers being supported. The springs worked great but the silicone elastomers (I believe at duro 20) provide most of the benefit with improved user convenience, IMO. YMMV

@mitch2  +1

check this out...can’t find the whole vid.

"are clock crystals sensitive?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suFmFmlZdtc

the best thing one could do really is to ’float things’ on some thick low duro jelly squishy elastomer whatever.

A lot of the stupid stuff that gets sold for hifi ’isolation’ didn’t do anything for the likes of what you saw in this vid. 

@mitch2 I’ve seen research on the reduction of _vibration_ with a variety of devices.  What I have never seen is research on how susceptible a given device is to vibration. 

For instance, put a DAC on a very shaky rack.  Measure the performance.  Now do the same with 110  dB of music playing in a room with a wooden floor. 

I use music as just one example.  If you have a vibration pad where you can simulate shaking at a variety of frequencies and amplitudes that’s fine too, but show me how this DAC starts to become microphonic or distort based on that vibration.

If anyone has links to that kind of research please @ me and let me know.