Critical listening and altered states

@hilde45 ...."There's life in that old post yet..." 👍😎🎶

@mahgister ....sounds like my 'reality', whatever it is...not much on candles 'n such.....*G*

Beers,Pot,thc,Mushrooms, will modify your interpretation of music perception , not the objective quality of sound perception. only acoustics can do this.

You are in direct contact with non-interpreted reality. You can hear sounds objectively and then interpret them. That’s not how my brain/mind work. I guess we’re built differently. Everything I hear is interpreted. The question (for me not you) is how to make sure my interpretations are not stuck in a rut.

 You forget that there exist 2 contextual  meanings of the word biases and interpretation here.

The first context is conscious use of substance(beers &drugs) to create an acoustically distorted subjective experience of music and sound...

The second context is conscious use of acoustic condition to modify your own perception and interpretation of sound and music...

I do not hear sound objectively as you claimed i use objective acoustic concepts and parameter to modify my subjective interpretation of sound and music...(ASW/LV ratio is objective concepts and parameters which we can use to control or not the system/ears/room, it refer also to a modified or altered conscious experience of sound )

Everything we hear is interpreted consciously and unconsciously , saying this is a common place evident fact, but acting on our conscious experience of this interpretation and biases using acoustics or beer are two different factors...

I only add to the ,beer,pot,mushroom, common place factors a less known factor...

Acoustics is also an altered state of consciousness as music is in itself, with beers and pot or without...

Observe that my opinion about acoustics experience and controls "as an altered state of consciousness" wed together the subjective interpretation in and with perception and the objective aspect of perception  into one  relatively communicable experience.

Acoustics? That absolutely makes no sense in the context of this conversation,

You are right. Acoustic wall panels had no place in a conversation about altered states and critical listening...

But if you dare to google search acoustics as science you will learn what it is... Try it.

But perhaps the only way you ever used to alter your consciousness state, listening music, was beer ?

I am not in this situation sorry. Many others are like me. Then before deciding what can be said in a thread inform yourself.

"Critical listening" as suggested by the OP  as i understood it, can be related to our evaluation of the system/room sound or can be put aside by the use of beer and pot to simply enjoy music...

This critical  passive listening can interfer and be an impediment to our enjoyment of music indeed...

But there is also an active listening, using acoustics concepts and parameters, which help us to reach musical ecstasy (with beer or without beer).

I dont need pot or beer to forget the limitations of my low cost system. It work optimally and i enjoy it fully as the result of my creative  acoustics experiments...

Time to time i had used THC to increase my subjective experience of music, but this had no relation to my system sound. I used it 2 or 3 times a year listening Bach, Liszt,Bruckner and Philip Glass opera. the last time.

@mahgister ....sounds like my ’reality’, whatever it is...not much on candles ’n such.....*G*

Buy a salt lamp for the color orange,it increase our perception of music by associating a light climax between day and light and make music "colors"  best seen this way for me..  it is perhaps only self conditioning hypnosis...

Also i observed an effect on sound when near my gear but it is also perhaps only an aspect of my "tin foil hat" personality..