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especially fast, bass?
Fast Bass, Slow Bass - Myth vs. Fact See Here. Choosing a woofer see here.
Mike
Speakers for leading edge, transients, speed and big sound
Hello- I am looking to spend about 20-30k on used speakers ( guessing they would have been -40K new a few years back). Any suggestions welcome. I have a 14*20 room and I am looking for dynamics, potentially a great sounding horn or equivalent. Excited by Tektons but since I have the budget wondering if there's anything better. I did have the JBL M2s that I really enjoyed and Revel Salon 2s that I didn't so much
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@devinplombier Wrote:
Fast Bass, Slow Bass - Myth vs. Fact See Here. Choosing a woofer see here. Mike |
Mike, that old Lansing Heritage paper is a very good and very approachable analysis of woofer design, with the caveat of course that it is limited to JBL products (naturally). That other article is just one man’s opinionated screed. While I’ll be the last to dismiss the importance of a seamless and harmonious woofer-midrange integration (why so many planars fail), it isn’t the be-all and end-all and woofer quality does matter. Since we’re on the subject of "fast" bass I just want t point out that it is generally understood as not just how fast a woofer can accelerate to, say, 30 Hz (a low bar for sure), but perhaps more importantly how fast it stops. Hence the servo systems developed by Arnie Nudell and others that employed piezo accelerometers mounted on individual woofers to feed acceleration data to circuitry that controlled cone excursion in real time. @larryi I completely get your point. I guess it’s like tubes and vinyl in a way; despite the mess of stunted frequency responses, low channel separation and massive distortion they sound delightful. I get that the same goes for woofers. I strongly suspect that I couldn’t live happily with speakers that are down 6 dB at 55 Hz (JBL’s spec), but I respect those who see beyond that. An additional caveat is that I have not auditioned the K2, and I am open to the possibility that their sound somehow transcends their underwhelming spec. Wouldn’t be the first time such a thing happens 🙂
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I like the sound of the K2's but, this being a matter of personal taste, I don't think they are the best sounding horn-based systems. The overall tonal balance is, for me too light in upper bass/lower midrange such that it is a touch thin sounding as far as my ideal speaker is concerned. But, it certainly is a worthy candidate for consideration and might more completely fit someone else's taste preference. |