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The CD player is dead.......

I am still waiting for someone to explain why a cd player is superior to storing music on a hard drive and going to a dac. Probably because you all know it's not.

Every cd player has a dac. I'll repeat that. Every cd player has a dac. So if you can store the ones and zeros on a hard drive and use error correction JUST ONCE and then go to a high end dac, isn't that better than relying on a cd player's "on the fly" jitter correction every time you play a song? Not to mention the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your fingertips via an itouch remote.

If cd player sales drop, then will cd sales drop as well, making less music available to rip to a hard drive?
Maybe, but there's the internet to give us all the selection we've been missing. Has anyone been in a Barnes and Noble or Borders lately? The music section has shown shrinkage worse than George Costanza! This is an obvious sign of things to come.....

People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day.

I say sell your cd players and embrace the future of things to come. Don't do the digital "comb over".
devilboy
onetwothreego
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Almarg

A well designed cd player will have jitter issues that lie somewhere between minimal and none,

A well designed dac will not have jitter issues either.
pettyofficer
462 posts
 
And this thing continues on forever. A couple points, Kijanki. You give me Technobabble which is completely meaningless unless you take into account the attitude of the Industry that is producing the Technology. I have already covered the Industries attitude that first produced CD, the same attitude that the current Computer Industry embraces, the same attitude that you embrace. Most Customers are not Audiophiles and only care about (sic) Music, MP3 is good enough. Alright Mr. Technobabble, then remind me again what qualifies an Computer Industry with an MP3 Technological Attitude to replace the CD? Thank God we aren't exactly hiring overachievers to accomplish this task! If you were an Employer, would you seriously hire these people? Isn't that exactly what you are doing tasking them to replace the CD? I'm sorry, but these people aren't simply qualified to do the job, not with their MP3 attitude. I would love to see them do your Taxes with their barely good enough attitude, you would end up in jail for a very long time.
The fact that a majority of consumers still listen to CD's as opposed to SACD/DVD-Audio was a value judgement based on a comparison of the Sound Quality of all three Formats. The slight increase in Sound Quality of SACD/DVD-Audio over CD didn't justify the huge increase in additional costs. Sounds like a value judgement based on Sound Quality comparison to me! It is the 800 pound gorilla
in the room, how can you possibly not see it?
People (or Computer Industry) who believe that basic quality of MP3 is more than enough, are simply not qualified to replace the CD on technical grounds, as well as on so many other levels! What qualifies them? Would you hire a 2 year old Child to be your Lawyer? Well your going to lose! Performance will always count for something, even if most consumers could give a farthing about it! That is certainly NOTHING to be proud of, certainly nothing to be shoving down the throats of others! I am just completely baffled how viraciously everyone argues against higher performance versus MP3, and still call themselves Audiophiles. They seek the destruction of Higher Performance Formats to eliminate the competition to their Lower Performance sacred cow. We have seen this before (ad nausium) with LP and CD. This is nothing new! You aren't fooling anyone. We know want you want to do with eliminating the CD Format! I don't think that you can be more transparent!
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kijanki
4,428 posts
 
Pettyofficer - A lot of words with a little or no sense plus unnecessary name calling. Stop using, man.
pettyofficer
462 posts
 
MP3 as perfect sound forever? Here we go again! I know that History has a tendency to repeat itself, but for crying out loud! Some of us are sick and tired of going in circles for Decades! Enough already! Not another Music Storage perfect sound forever, not another MP3 perfect sound forever, not another Downloading perfect sound forever! Not another WAV, FLAC, Loss-less Compression whatever perfect sound forever! Should I continue forever? Please, I pray you get the point by now! Why must I go through this, and you are still not convinced? Here's one, how about the anything but CD perfect sound forever? There you go, CD has been eliminated! How about the anything but LP perfect sound forever. Anything but SACD perfect sound forever-ditto DVD Audio? Will this possibly provide enough convenience for everyone? Maybe what we need is a big fat syrenge so you can inject your Music perfect sound forever!
Does that make your convenience juices flow? I thought it would.
pettyofficer
462 posts
 
O-Kay, Kijanki, I called you Mr.Technobabble. I take it back and apologize. You still don't get the point though! What I describe doesn't make any sense because what I desribe is exactly what you and the Computer Industry plan to do with the CD Format! Of course it doesn't make any sense, that is my point! You and your Industry are taking us down the exact same road when CD was first invented. You ever get the feeling of Deja-vue? Those LP's just had to go! Now it is the CD's that just have to go! Are we getting anything in exchange for all of this besides a downgrading of performance? Your right, it doesn't make any sense! I'm sick and tired of going in circles. What is this, Groundhog Day? What is so bizarre is that you aren't even aware that you are going in circles, scratch that, you are in extreme denial that you are dragging the rest of us in circles. Enough is enough, you are not getting the CD Format till you grow up-Period! You can't have it!
Now go cry to your mommy about it!
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