Finally heard Accuphase


I heard it at T.H.E. Show last weekend.

I was pretty shocked at how bad they were. Of course there are many variables at a show, but they were in more than one room. The sound was so wishy-washy and vague and uninvolving I couldn't get past it.

And I was hearing stacks of like $50k ,75k worth. A $3k Sugden sounds about the same, if memory serves. Or even the $8k Yamaha. More or less. But to spend that money on these amps makes no sense. Just build your own tube amp for $1500.

Whats going on with this brand?

To be fair, I also heard a $300k system that sounded more or less like a good PA system at a small concert venue that costs like, IDK $10k or something. This stuff is making no sense anymore.

clustrocasual

Plus 10 Arafiq,

My son was up for Father’s Day this weekend and he heard everything you described in spades.

He could not believe the layering of instruments etc. He just said you lay back and enjoy the music and detail without it be in your face.

He has very nice ML speakers as I had them for years also. 
 

Be well,

Bob

@clustrocasual 

Comments like “I was pretty shocked at how bad they were” happen because everyone has a different opinion on how something sounds. When people ask questions on Audiogon about equipment, the answers can vary widely. Ultimately, the only correct answer is how it sounds to you personally.

Based on my audio show experience, I believe you cannot judge ANY audio equipment at an audio show.  There are way too many variables that interfere with hearing the real sound.   Everyone on Audiogon knows, the only way to judge a piece of equipment is to hear it in YOUR home and existing equipment.

"I was pretty shocked at how bad they were” 

OP is really bad, unethical! just move on and buy what you really like!

@westcoastaudiophile What do you mean "unethical"? I'm anonymous and everyone has a right to their own opinion. 

I'm grateful to hear the responses here. Some people agreed and others provided insight.