Kirmuss users, what do you find?

I have had a Kirmuss machine for 5 years.  I have found the best way to use it is to use it like every other ultrasonic cleaner.  Run it through the 5 minute cycle and then dry it.  I forget about all of the other steps. I use a vacuum machine to dry the record as it is quick and thorough.

There is no way any additional stuff should build up on your stylus after cleaning the record.  In cases where the record is in particularly bad condition, perhaps with mold or something, I have found that cleaning the record once, then playing it, then cleaning it again gives good results.

Playing a record, especially with a line contact stylus that gets deeper into the groove than a conical stylus, can be part of the cleaning process.

I have a Kirmuss machine and also had the problem with globs of junk on the stylus when I followed his procedure to the letter (including studying his Youtube video).

I decided the whole Dr. Kirmuss thing is B.S. and overly cumbersome. Now I use the Kirmuss instead with Tergikleen as a prewash for soiled used records, followed by a DW rinse in my Degritter II. That works far, far better, and never causes build up of any kind on my stylus. I now only use the Kirmuss machine that way. 

Not to mention his cleaning fluid is ridiculously expensive. I never used all the machine came with originally, but I knew I was never going to pay the $100 or so for the small refill bottle.

Lubachi,

All my records are in great shape, or I get rid of them.

Cart is a Haha ML.

Dwette,

Tergikleen with a DW rinse is what I was planning to try next, then the ultrasonic.

I have 2 Spin Clean machines and can load each with those 2 liquids.

BTW, how do you quote people here? Never could figure it out.

Traudio, you cannot quote people on this platform in the conventional way that most forums are set up.  I agree that is a bit of a nuisance.

What I have trouble understanding is, if you are just cleaning a record with an ultrasonic cleaner, whether it is the Kirmuss unit or whatever, there is no way the unit can add gunk to your record.  Water and alcohol cannot physically deposit anything on your record.  I am not sure what is going on with the cleaning process in your case but I would be hesitant to blame the machine.  Just saying... 

@lubachl 

whether it is the Kirmuss unit or whatever, there is no way the unit can add gunk to your record.  Water and alcohol cannot physically deposit anything on your record.  I am not sure what is going on with the cleaning process in your case but I would be hesitant to blame the machine.  Just saying... 

No, @traudio  is not mistaken or wrong. The "official" Kirmusss process really does cause that problem. I noticed it to, and I’m a very experienced user of cleaning machines and processes. I think the issue is that the Kirmuss system leaves residue on the records. There is no plain water rinse in the process. It even calls for spraying the record with a Kirmuss provided spritz bottle after cleaning, and that’s the problem. That is why I called out the Kirmuss process upstream as B.S. and said I abandoned it. For the very reason it leaves something on the record.

In my opinion, a proper record cleaning regimen only takes away dirt. It should never add anything that isn’t removed before the end of the cleaning process. Kirmuss isn’t that. This is why I always end my record cleaning with a run through a Degritter II with nothing but DW in the tank.