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Kirmuss users, what do you find?

I bought a nearly new Kirmuss record "restoration" system from a widow of an audiophile. 


I mostly wanted it for the machine, but had to try his method just out of curiosity. 
I followed the instructions, apart from the "Aftercare" section, which was influenced by the AudioPhile Man review (pt 2)


I got YUGE globs of stuff on my stylus after playing just 1 side of a "restored" record. OK, maybe I’ve not cleaned it enough? The record went back in for 2 more cleanings with the surfactant and ultrasonic bath for 5 min each time. Still ended up with a ball of something on my stylus. 

I next used my other method, which was to scrub up a different record with some Audio Intelligent #6, 5 min ultrasonic bath, then dried with the Record Doctor. 
Just a touch of lint (probably airborne that landed on the record) after 1 side. 

I will say the sound of the record was noticeably improved with the Kirmuss chemicals, but I feel that this substance is NOT being completely removed with the ultrasonic bath. 

Any users out there that can share their experience?  

traudio
traudio OP
139 posts
 

Although I have a large collection of cleaning fluids, that's one I haven't tried yet. I'll try it, thanks.

rsf507
2,437 posts
 

I've used the L'Art Du Son Record Cleaning Fluid and liked it BUT once mixed it must be refrigerated or it breaks down. For the past several years now have been using the Keith Monks DisOvery fluid and like this even better. Have gone thru 3 or 4 bottles with no issues/concerns.

https://www.soundsofsilence.com/introducing-discovery-natural-precision-record-cleaning-fluids-from-keith-monks

traudio OP
139 posts
 

Good to hear as I have a full bottle of DisOvery fluid from the 2 weeks I had a Keith Monks machine (Hated it).
Too tweaky to get the suction right didn't fall off the end of the record like it was supposed to and that nozzle marked up some of my records which I cannot get cleaned off Grrrr. 

I assume you scrub up the record with the fluid the put it in the US machine, right?

lewm
13,718 posts
 

FWIW, Propylene glycol and propyl alcohol or propanol are related only in that both are 3-carbon molecules and both are alcohols, but with different properties.  PG is what you put in your car's radiator to prevent freezing and overheating. If there is PG in Kirumuss's recipe, I would be surprised (because it's poisonous if ingested) but not amazed. Anyway, propyl alcohol or its isomer, isopropyl alcohol, are unlikely to form a precipitate with aqueous solution. However, I have seen the white schmutz that forms on the LP surface during the Kirmuss procedure, and it does look like a precipitate of something. I watched it happen at the Capitol Audio Fest demo, and the precipitate alone was enough to deter me from adopting the method, not to mention its tedious nature.

traudio OP
139 posts
 

"TOXICOLOGY:  

Non Toxic Solution: 98-99% distilled water, 1-2% propanediol 1-2-178"
See page 2.

      

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