CDPs That Have Volume Control +Variable Output

Less is better only if the quality of the components used and the skill of the designer are superior to the one who designed the pre amp. Pre amps are designed specifically to handle the low level input signals from your source components and deliver them faithfully to the amplifier.

The Oppo players have remote=controlled volume-
They don't cost much but a lot of people like them.

The Oppo BD-83 has volume control on the remote as stated and does sound good. It will also give you SACD and DVDA and Bluray as well as CD for $499.

mikey, you might get more improvement by adding an external dac and using the adcom (which is a solid unit) as a transport than by trading for another $500 unit--something like the mf v-dac or cambridge dacmagic.

Thx for all the responses...the thread is sure to generate opinions as there are lots of ways to listen to music, as always :)

I don't need blue ray, manta ray, sacd or whatever...if anything, cds are my way to be lazy when not spinning vinyl.

And it's more just a convenience than anything, as I have several systems, so I never really know what sounds best as I'm always moving stuff around...I just liek the idea of an amp and cdp together. I've been running an QADcom GCD575 with a CJ MF2300, and it sounds great. I'm sure a preamp would do it all justice too...more of a convenience than anything...

Seems though, that there is not much that can touch the 575, and be under $200, that has an analog volume control too.