Let's talk music, no genre boundaries

@mahgister 

The idea of physics through a feminine lens and problems with entropy are mine. The idea that there must be a creative force is mine. I got these ideas from reading books like "The Tao of Physics" and "Gaia" and many others. Chatgbt did not lead me along, I led it along. I have long wondered about space and why it has been so overlooked, until recently, by physics. The book "Gaia" gave me ideas about a creative force in the universe. If you could see the very long process I spent with chatgbt, you would know that chatgbt was not feeding me nonsense just to please me. Many times I tried to lead it in a direction and it opposed me. 

It is a fact that women have had little to do with the writing of physics. That is why I thought that physics overlooks the creative force. The concept of entropy has long seemed problematic to me. How is it measured that the creation of a human or any life form creates more entropy than the value of the form? How does one count the quality or quantity of a human being versus entropy?

Anyway, these are my ideas and I was helped by chatgbt to organize them and bring them into line with modern physics ideas. I can show you blogs I wrote twenty years ago about books on string theory. These thoughts are not new to me. I've been thinking about them a very long time.

I apologize if i had been too blunt and direct...

I dont doubt that you think about these ideas very seriously...

But nothing of what you wrote surprised me as really new ...

i read Tao of physics and Gaia long ago too ...

Entropy is a subject very deep and puzzling even for geniuses :

«John von Neumann famously advised Claude Shannon to name his information measure "entropy" because "Nobody knows what entropy is, so in a debate you will always have the advantage". Von Neumann recognized the formula’s connection to statistical mechanics and that its conceptual ambiguity would provide a strategic benefit in discussions about the new field of information theory.»

 

If Von Neumann dont know what is entropy  i doubt that just refering back to "creative feminine force" will solve the problem...

 

 An unknown genius wrote a book about entropy and the cosmos, William James Sidis  at 20 and predicted from his ideas black hole 14 years before Chandrasekhar works: 

https://www.sidis.net/animate.pdf

i can use A.I. to give a resume of this book  i read in awe 25 years ago:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-william-james-sidis-th-q1KgmH9RQ8efSgVIpLkDyA

 

We all need a grid perspective to figure out the world and our place in it.

For me the feminine/masculine polarities the way you used them in the post about physics above   cannot explain the world and history and certainly not physics...

Mathematics is not even enough if we want to begin to understand the world...

We need spiritual insight way over feminine and masculine sex differences...

Now we can mathematise this polarity in more abstract forms than feminine and masculine  as Russell did after the Chinese in the deep Yi-King book  ...Or we can use this polarity in a non sexual integrated way as Swedenborg did ...

A spiritual thinker has done it among few others :

Walter Russell :

«Russell’s cosmogony was described in A New Concept of the Universe,^[19] where he wrote that "the cardinal error of science" was "shutting the Creator out of his Creation."^[20] Russell never referred to an anthropomorphic god, but rather wrote that "God is the invisible, motionless, sexless, undivided, and unconditioned white Magnetic Light of Mind"^[21] which centers all things. "God is provable by laboratory methods," Russell wrote, "The locatable motionless Light which man calls magnetism is the Light which God IS."^[22] He wrote that Religion and Science must come together in a New Age.^[23]» 

 

^{Swedenborg has described an holographical vision of the universe  emanating from the God  central sun :}

^«In Swedenborg’s cosmology, Divine Love and Divine Wisdom are the fundamental attributes of God, manifesting in the spiritual world as a sun that gives forth heat (Divine Love) and light (Divine Wisdom).»

As you can see wisdom is the masculine element , love the feminine element which together makes one angel reflecting God main attributes...

Swedenborg was one of the greatest scientist in history not only a mystic.

 

 

Now i will give you my own idea about the world. It is not rooted in biological sex distinction.

The finite in time  cannot imagine the infinite but the infinite out of time can "remember" the finite which was created by him.

I believe in God as explanatory source of sciences as well as history as history of our consciousness transformation  and birth in God or in the source spirit...

The best book on this is Gebser book. "the ever present origin"... this book instead of being obsolete as you claimed  predicted 75 years ago the actual state of the world...

I could have quoted Rudolf Steiner the seer, scientist and Goethe scholar. I read 200 books of him but i doubt that it will interest you. Then i picked up Gebser but you discarded it as "obsolete" ..  :) 

@mahgister 

I am reassured by what you say, not insulted. But we need to find a way to take this discussion out of this forum. Would you try direct messaging me. Once when @stuartk did it, I received an email I could respond to. My Audiogon screen is screwed up and doesn't allow me to send out DMs. 

@mahgister 

I am reassured by what you say, not insulted. But we need to find a way to take this discussion out of this forum. Would you try direct messaging me. Once when @stuartk did it, I received an email I could respond to. My Audiogon screen is screwed up and doesn’t allow me to send out DMs. 

 

 

You are  a cool soul and a wise guy...

 I think we had pretty much expressed our perspective clearly to one another ...

I dont see what to add...

 We will stick more to sound and music ...

And if philosophy comes back again i will keep it shorter ...

 

 

 I will recommend a genre i dont know how to characterise ...( is this heavy metal ? )

A fun listen i used few times few years ago to test my system /room ...

I learn to like their albums and hear it time to time ( i had all their albums) but especially this one :

 

 The revolutionary army of the infant Jesus , "a rumor of angels " album ...

I dont like any rock or heavy metal  "band " music usually much to stay polite...

But there is exception for anything in my case even " heavy metals" ( i dont like) save some album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIKHQS6LC9A&list=RDRIKHQS6LC9A&start_radio=1&t=83s

 

The youtube video describe this as "experimental dark folk"...

Funny ... For me it is rythmic waves light metal  music ...

 

By the way  if you had a non optimized system  it will not translated well in your system/ room and instead of clear rythmical waves of sound you will have a puddle ...

 

It posted this because nobody reacted to my Sorabji posts ....

A genius  which propose pieces impossible to listen without  total concentration on a long time span...

 Perhaps a kind of "rock band " i like will create a more satisfying impression ...

Anyway it is always spiritual music  which is my best "genre" through all genres and cultures ....

Bach or Australian didgeridoo are spiritual music content for me : " a sound creating a felt change in consciousness"...

If something dont create a change in my consciousness i throw it in a trash bin ... (most music albums sold )  But we are all different and for you it can be an album i dislike who create this change in consciousness ...

 

 

@mahgister 

I will listen tomorrow. I would venture to guess that most people listen to music most of the time for pleasure or entertainment. I think you are unique in mostly listening for spiritual reasons. Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "spiritual." You have posted a number of sacred pieces in the Christian tradition, however, I'm guessing that your definition of spirituality goes beyond Christianity.

I am assuming that you grew up in Russia because you say that many Russian artists became part of your youth. I think in the U.S. most people have nostalgia about popular music. I am now listening to Roberta Flack's "First Take." I loved this album the first time I heard it. Flack's musical background is from Black churches. And she sings some spirituals, but mostly she has an esoteric view of popular music and chooses wonderful pieces to sing. Here's the album if you haven't heard it. Over the 50 years I have been assembling a system, thanks to work bonuses and inheritences, I've put together a good system. Nothing at the stratospheric top, but something that sounds very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUk9Lsy_yQ&list=PLNPGM2D7aODfCsJa2fNQqXpbkHF_OeOMl