Let's talk music, no genre boundaries
This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.
Thank you for the book suggestions. The more I dive into this, the more I realize how many other people have delved into this subject before me. Back to music, since that is what this forum is about. I pulled up Tchaikovsky's name on Qobuz and looked for pieces of his I've never heard. I am listening to his string quartets. They are quite lovely. |
My prefered version is by Borodin quartet...I love these quartet a lot ... These three quartet are so moving Tchaikovsky wrote this in his journal : «"Never in my life have I been so moved by the pride of authorship as when Lev Tolstoy, sitting by me and listening to the Andante of my Quartet, burst into tears" It was the second movement of the quatuor no 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIZIQ5B-f6g&list=RDoIZIQ5B-f6g&start_radio=1
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I'll have to go back and pay closer attention to that movement. The book I am reading on consciousness is called "Gallileo"s Error." Gallileo was a mathematician who wanted to describe everything mathematically. He was the first, perhaps, to realize that this could be done. A red ball thrown through the air could be described by math. Everything but the redness of it. He called sight (colors, etc.), sound (music), etc. qualities and he said qualities resided in the soul. Basically, in his mathemtatical description of the world qualities were not paid attention to. The writer of "Galilleo's Error" says that Gallileo went in the wrong direction. Qualities need to be considered along with quantities. If sceince had been invented through a feminine lens, I"m sure that sweet-smelling flowers, and delicious-smelling hot bread, and all qualities, good and bad, would have been included in our science. Now, I think, we have to start all over again. At the end of Herman Hess's "Steppenwolf" Harry the protagonist has a vision where he is finally on a green field with the woman he always wanted but would never approach. What does he do? He stabs her to death. The guide says, "Is that any way to treat a lady, Harry? Now we'll have to start all over again." |
Goff is right about the genius of Galileo but the price to pay for this mathematical method was the erasure of not only qualities of perception but the being of the observer as a conscious living entity... Goethe was the first confronting Newton on light and color and doing so creating advance in neurophysiology of perception and in art, he was the first to explain that the "delicate empiricism" he asked for imply the transformation of the observer... It is not just about a more empathetical and more sensible, more concrete and more feminine participation to the world , as it was originally for what Barfield called "original participation" and Gebser called the mythical and magical participation, but Goethe went for a " final participation" as Barfield called it or a aperspectival consciousness as Gebser described it ... Then it is not so much about going back from the masculine to the feminine but going forward to a new balance with ourselves and the world... The only thinker that describe it extensively with a clear diagnostic but also the complete set of solutions in almost all fields is the last universal genius and a spiritual seer, Rudolf Steiner, who is the main modern Goethean scholar and disciple, with 360 books. ( i read 200) He created the greater pedagogy movement existing on earth in all countries, a new medecine, a new agronomy, new art (eurythmy) architecture, even a new conception of the social body who goes well over social engineering materialism. Wolfgang Schad used Goethe and Steiner method in zoology. His book is 1500 pages... The last pupil of Steiner discovered reading him the geometry of the heart with the creation of a new form called the "Chestahedron"... This video is the best description of the creativity in science i ever see : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQMpEAsNHmY&t=268s But the best introduction to Goethe method in only one book is by the physicist Henri Bortoft : "taking appearence seriously"
"In music, man feels the echo of the inmost life of things" Rudolf Steiner If we want to understand this Steiner quote the best book on acoustic was written by a Nigerian Acoustician who revolutionize acoustics : Akpan J. Essien... Read this article to get a taste of his idea about "sound" as meaning and information coming from the vibrating sound source and not just mathematical proportion (Pythagoras) or physical wave... Essien book is called: "Sound Source" But with this article you will have a gist of his deep thinking...
read this article first and you will understand the link with Goethe method...
https://www.academia.edu/54667709/The_Unfounded_Foundation_of_Hearing_Sciences
Now if you read these two short article you will understand why Essien is right and why the (masculine) vision of Pythagoras about music must change for a more (feminine) ecological theory about hearing ... The universal archetype of music is not number but the timbre perception by the human body... Sound is the first awaking perception by us in the mother body.... https://phys.org/news/2024-02-pythagoras-wrong-universal-musical-harmonies.html https://phys.org/news/2013-02-human-fourier-uncertainty-principle.html |
I am in the middle of three books, all dealing with different aspects of what I'm talking about. I'm not sure I'll get to your articles. Maybe one. The thing I think I haven't gotten across to you is that I do not want a strictly feminine world. I don't think, however, that most people understand what an absolute male world we live in and to what degree the feminine has been repressed. When you study the history of humanity going far back before Biblical times to proto-Sumerians, the repression is stark. To me a good example is the survivors of Epstein's sex trafficking of young girls as young as 12. Important men paid a lot of money to have sex with these underage girls. The now women) have now developed the bravery to come forward and say that they want justice. What does Trump who is the essence of the patriarchy say? "It's a hoax." Trump is just the spokesperson for how America feels about women. They are not allowed to be heard when they speak about their feelings. It's this way all around the world. And this example is only a dramatic way of trying to point out how seriously we are locked into patriarchy. Women know. Ask them. What I am saying is that even our sciences reflect the suppression of women. I read a book called "The Passion of the Western Mind" by Richard Tarnas. He does not talk about women at all. He talks about how Western Society, in developing our sciences and philsophies, have ignored the world of dreams in which we live one third of our lives. I equate this world of dreams with the feminine. The unconscious mind sees things that we cannot recognize because we do not have the language or a way of thinking about it. So, I am with you. I want to bring the feminine into balance. But, God help us, the Patriarchy will fight like hell, and religion will stand behind them, to make sure that the feminine is kept down. We might just have one big war just to destroy the threat of the feminine coming into balance. |
