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CDP Help -- Apollo vs Apollo-R vs Saturn

I'm upgrading from an almost vintage system to entry level audiophile gear. I'm still developing my ear and tastes in quality sounding gear. I have little time to demo but like the Rega and Naim sound. My budget is tight and I'm buying piece-meal as opportunities arise. So far I have bought Totem Sttafs. I'm leaning toward Rega Brio-R, SimAudio Moon 250i, Naim Nait 5i-2 (or similar) integrated. Here's my current potential CDP buy for which I'd appreciate opinions;

1) never used, in box Rega Apollo for $450 private sale,
2) used excellent condition Rega Saturn for $900 private sale,
3) wait for Apollo-R release and buy from dealer $1095 + $100 tax, includes warranty.

I'm not sure about the value of these CDPs when the new Apollo-R hits the shelves in a few weeks. I'm new to this, so any input would help. Thanks
joerand
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sebrof
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I own the Apollo and think it's a great player. The $450 price tag is a very good price, hard to find another at that price today.
Having said that, I'd say that #3 is better than #2 is better than #1. Is the price difference worth it to you? Only you can answer.

If my intention were to try a few different flavors I'd go with either #1 or #2 because of resale.
If my intention were to buy something and use it long term I'd be inclined to buy the new -R and be done with it.
joerand OP
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Thanks Rar1. The sound you describe is what I'm seeking. My 1986 Sony CDP-37 renders all but remastered CDs harsh and fatiguing. I'm temporarily using my Panasonic DVD player as a CDP and it's much warmer, but seems to put a bit too much emphasis on upper mids (perhaps to enhance vocal dialogue in movies?). Cymbals roll-off nicely, however. It's giving me a chance to develop an understanding of how different CDPs present the same information. From what I read, the Apollo is a sensible value, even at full price.
joerand OP
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Thanks Sebrof. There has been little written about the Apollo-R. Would you rank it higher than the Saturn independent of price? Have you heard it?

The Apollo for $450 seems like a can't lose deal, esp as an entry level unit. Frankly, I haven't heard the Saturn or the R, but several months back I preferred a Naim CDP over the original Apollo. The Naim had a larger presence, bigger soundstage. Unfortunately, I don't remember the model Naim CDP I heard.
plinko
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Naim Nait 5i, Nait 2, or Nait 3R (preferably "split" so you can a power supply later) - used
Naim CD5/Flatcap - used

This is the exact system we have for a second system upstairs (with a Nait 5i). Those three components cost us $2,100 used. Love it. It just ticks all the boxes at a low price (for hifi).
plinko
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Btw, Joerand, I have owned all of those components and an Apollo along with CDX2 and a CDS3 at various points. My faves (taking into consideration price) are the Nait 3R with a Flatcap and the CD5 with a Flatcap. Nait 5i coming up close second to the 3R.

I really liked the Apollo but I thought tone was more authentic with Naim cd players. Apollo tone seemed slightly glossy or smoothed over. I am being highly critical here...i loved it and i am thinking about an Apollo-R also.
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