Worlds best DAC


Went to CES this year to work on my transition to high Rez digital. I've heard many of the highly regarded players in my room or in others systems in the past. I'm actually very happy with my current cd based sound. As I listened to various DACS playing CD then high Rez, I was not bowled over. High rez was better, but only slightly so. The best (and most different) sound I heard happened to have one similarity. They were 2 non oversampling DACS with tube analog stages(Zanden and Ypsilon). These were without question the most natural sounding digital systems I heard at the show. They made CDsound miles ahead of high Rez. What gives?

PS: I understand the limitations of show auditions.
bflowers
'Can you do an experiment? Convert some of your favorite PCM files to DSD64 or DSD128 using JRiver 19 Media Center, as I feel their PCM to DSD modulator is superb. Once done, feed the resulting DSD files through your MPD-3 and see what happens against your PCM DAC playing the same PCM files?'

I haven't got time for that right now - next few weeks here in Australia is Cricket and Tennis season and my time will be taken up with that.

But from my experience I think you are correct - it would likely improve things quite a bit.

What I do know of is experiments done with a Killer DAC where the output of a master tape was converted to DSD, then downsampled to 44.1 using some special software. There was a difference when played back via the Killer - but it was thought many wouldn't worry about it - it was that slight.

Thanks
Bill
Hi Agear,
Well that's very encouraging to hear, Robert has told me how good your room and system are, so the "digital sucks" just made no sense to me. My feeling was what a waste of money and time if that's your end result (how sad that'd be). Glad to know that isn't the case.

I agree that the recording quality is the primary limitation. Pop and rock seem to suffer the most. My fare overwhelming is jazz and this genre is recorded much better and is very close to a "good" vinyl LP and often equal or better(it depends on variables involved). I've done enough comparisons with high quality digital and
analog systems to say this with confidence(I can really enjoy either). I can bounce between both
during a listening seseion with no problem if both formats are done
properly. Just my experience and certainly others will disagree.

I looking forward to hearing the Lampizator -Pitcher room in a few days. Curious how it will sound compared to the Trinity set up I'll also listen to while there.
Charles,
Speaking of the world's best dac, the shootout between the Lampizator L7 and Trinity dac never took place as a "demo" unit was unavailable. I do understand from a business perspective that having a dac that costs substantially less being competitive is not good. Comparing it to a dcs stack is a "safer" comparison....:)
Agear, I checked into the ML3 Reference speakers, they seem dead serious and also reminded me of Dale's offerings.

Too bad the Trinity couldn't be in the shootout against the Lampy (I'm kinda sorry I brought it up here due to the crazy price and lack of availability) maybe another time.
Yes indeed Pat. You have some sweet speakers yourself!

The Atlanta Phasure/L7 or L4 Lampi shootout will be forthcoming...:)