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THE BLACK BY BEL CANTO- NEW REFERENCE

The new Bel Canto mono blocks that just came out, called BLACK BY BEL CANTO, weighing in each at 45 pounds, may be the amp I mentioned in a thread two years ago that had bee delayed for release back in 2013. The mono amp that John was working on back in 2012 was a Class D amp with no switching module replaced by a very large DC power supply. Reading the info on the website, would conclude this is it. Its also using a Ncore power supply as well. The large main power supply John designed would account for the heavy 45 pounds each. These new mono amps are part of a new three piece system. The amps are $15K each. Go to the Bel Canto home page. Scroll down to the very bottom right and click black face plate option and this will open up the new pages for the Black system. Has anyone out there heard these amps?
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mapman
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"And if my quick impressions of the whole prototype last year are any indications.... It is a pretty fine sounding system."

I hope there is some trickle down into a next generation of BC Class D amp products that offer similar or perhaps even better value than the current Icepower-based line.
guidocorona
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I agree with you Mapman... As sweet as REF1000M is, with the new modules, a REF1000M equivalent is bound to sound even better than the original.
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Guido,

No doubt. It's hard for me to perceive what more I might ask for, but I know the technology continues to improve and evolve and teh Icepower modules used in the ref1000m in particular are several years old at this point.

Give me the latest technology done well that is similarly tube pre-amp friendly and with similar generous power supply in a similar small, lightweight and power efficient package and I will continue to be happy once what I have is no more for whatever reason.

I am Bel Canto fan. fantastic performance, good value, and their customer service has been spot on for me to-date when needed as well. What more is there?
guidocorona
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Hi again Mapman, I looked up the NAD M22. Fascinating device at an "entry level" audiophilic price point... Lots of technology inside, NCore being only part of it. Seems continuous power / 8 Ohms with nominal THD is 250W with a peak current of a whapping 50 Amps. On 4 Ohms, peak power is about 600W. There seems to be a little discrepancy between the damping factor stated on the devices home page (120) and what the manual says (800). Device is already available from Crutchfield. Here is the amps web page, where you will also find a link to user manuals in several languages:

http://nadelectronics.com/products/masters-series/M22-Stereo-Power-Amplifier
If anyone is looking for an amp that will not break the bank, whith probable high potential, M22 should be one to look at seriously.

G.
audiozen OP
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The M22 is too high priced for a "budget" Class D amp for $3K. The very best value currently for an outstanding Class D amp is the recently released Wyred 4 Sound ST-1000 MKII which puts out just about double the power of the M22 and only costs $2K with a new chassis design. It uses the same latest generation ICE amps that are used in Bel Canto's REF500M amps. Also, the Wyred would be much easier to drive if using single ended RCA cables. Single ended input impedance on the Wyred is 92kOhms and a very low 17kOhms on the M22. Wyred is completey built and assembled in the U.S.
No offshore manufacturing. The M22 is manufactured in China.
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