Well this is my first post on this forum, made plenty on others though, I registered mainly because this thread struck a chord. I have long felt that the concept of damping in the horizontal plane is sound and some time back I tried a slightly similar idea.
In my case along with a list of mods too long to go over I added a round weight over the top of the tone arm at the centre pivot, in my TT this works as there is a yoke that comes up and over the arm, so the weight sits on top of that and is actually an old video head. If you go to my webpage here
http://homepage.mac.com/braddles/Menu2.html
You will see what I mean.
Anyhow I was attampting to do 2 things, one add more mass so as to make it more difficult for the arm to deflect in the horizontal plane in response to unwanted tracking movements and secondly to kill bearing chatter in what is a pretty rudimentary arm.
Net result was that the sound was much improved, the bass much stronger and tighter and highs sweeter I would say due to the lower chatter levels. It may just be too that one of the reasons for the much improved sound others are experiencing with this type of mod is also reduced chatter as the bearing would be more stable in all directions when playing and I would say using the outrigger idea on this thread would be superior to mine in doing that.
The mod talked about in this forum takes it to another level I would say and will try it.
I feel there would be an optimum weight that would work and beyond that the damping too great so it would need careful assessing of just how much.
This concept though is also related in essence to the idea of longhorn mods on carts, which is something I have found very effective on stiffish carts. If you have a look on my web page you will see a set of pics for my "waveclone 01" cart which I built up from a very cheap cart, it has an integrated longhorn mod. (note that this is quite a bit different to the usual implementation).
The tracking with this cart is marvellously secure and it sounds way way better than it really should considering it started out as a $10.00 cart, so in I think stabilization at either end of the arm can be a good thing and they can probably work in very nicely with one another on stiff cart in basic old arms.
In my case along with a list of mods too long to go over I added a round weight over the top of the tone arm at the centre pivot, in my TT this works as there is a yoke that comes up and over the arm, so the weight sits on top of that and is actually an old video head. If you go to my webpage here
http://homepage.mac.com/braddles/Menu2.html
You will see what I mean.
Anyhow I was attampting to do 2 things, one add more mass so as to make it more difficult for the arm to deflect in the horizontal plane in response to unwanted tracking movements and secondly to kill bearing chatter in what is a pretty rudimentary arm.
Net result was that the sound was much improved, the bass much stronger and tighter and highs sweeter I would say due to the lower chatter levels. It may just be too that one of the reasons for the much improved sound others are experiencing with this type of mod is also reduced chatter as the bearing would be more stable in all directions when playing and I would say using the outrigger idea on this thread would be superior to mine in doing that.
The mod talked about in this forum takes it to another level I would say and will try it.
I feel there would be an optimum weight that would work and beyond that the damping too great so it would need careful assessing of just how much.
This concept though is also related in essence to the idea of longhorn mods on carts, which is something I have found very effective on stiffish carts. If you have a look on my web page you will see a set of pics for my "waveclone 01" cart which I built up from a very cheap cart, it has an integrated longhorn mod. (note that this is quite a bit different to the usual implementation).
The tracking with this cart is marvellously secure and it sounds way way better than it really should considering it started out as a $10.00 cart, so in I think stabilization at either end of the arm can be a good thing and they can probably work in very nicely with one another on stiff cart in basic old arms.