Do you think you need a subwoofer?

Dear Sirspeedy: +++++ " NOW you are "intentionally" being insulting!! " +++++

I'm sorry that you thing that because was not my intention, Mark if you tell me ( on any subject ) that I have ignorance about I don't take it like an insult because maybe in that " virtual " subject I'm ignorant ( I don't have know-how about. How could you say non know-how? for me is ignorance and for you? ): no big deal. +++++ " .....I think you are taking this a bit too seriously. " +++++: your post.

Sirspeedy, the whole subwoofer subject IMHO has nothing to do about: +++++ " AND you have NOT ever heard my system....ALL my audio friends have heard it,and are set "against" a second sub!!! " +++++, it is not what your friends think, you or me: it is a stand alone subject.

+++++ " actually think that the ONLY way to go is two?..." +++++

no, not only but the best way and some times three or four ( and here yes depending on room ).

+++++ " as well as overall low frequency performance greatly affects this?...." +++++, you still are talking about only one subwoofer " goal " you are not taking the whole " view ", why? I can't understand it because like I alredy told you you are a wise and mature person.

+++++ " ...Are you afraid other regular posters will think less of you,if a subject does not go your way?..." +++++

cf course not, like you already told and I agree " we are learning ".

Mark, this is not a friendly fight to see which one win, the main point here is that no one loose and every body win some way or other.

I'm follow answering your posts because you follow posting it but I already told you:
+++++ " you are the one that are loosing the quality improvement of the two subwoofer subject and it is ok for me. " +++++, and is true if you agree or loose that opportunity or what ever that facts can/could not affect me.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Sirspeedy and Rauliruegas,

On this subject, I would like to offer my opinion.

First of all, this thread has become a grenade tossing exercise, and from two people whose words in these rooms I greatly respect. Pardon me in advance if I don't have a great knowledge of intermodulation distortion and harmonic distortion, however, I do have a good set of ears being a life-long non-professional musician and a professional editor who mixes his own audio for air on a major TV network. I am your common "joe". And I am like 80 percent of us here: what I don't know in engineering and theory I make up for in listening with my head and my heart.

I have a great 2 channel system....Krell amp, Adcom GFP 750 pre-amp flowing into a pair of Dunlavy SC3's. They are great speakers: very revealing, time and phase coherant, and have a very small sweet spot. They have plenty of slam, but are rated at only around 40HZ at the low end (the top? forget about it, just glorious). Anyway, I wanted to round out the low end an extra 10 or 15 hertz. So, I bought a Von Schweikert VS-1 subwoofer, and stuck it just left of center. Now I hear this wonderful bass presence, increased slam, and an overall heft that is not too overbearing, but just enough to make me smile. I set the crossover on my sub at around 40K to let my Dunlavy's handle everything that they do best and let my sub do the rest. One sub, an extra 15 hz in the low end, and I am happy as a clam.

Sirspeedy, your explanations and experiences are very well written and understandable. Thanks for your info.
Raul, your knowledge of this hobby is at a level way above me, but I sure respect and appreciate it, always have, always will.

Just a "common Joe" here, throwing in my 2 cents.

Raise the faders on the pre-amp, it's another sunny day inside!! Cheers!

Dear Judsauce: Thank you for your contribution, was/is a pleasure.

regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Bobb: Thank you for the notice.

Soon, I will have it and try to put on the virtual system.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Raul,since you claim not to understand my implementation of only one sub, as stated by you... "you still are talking about "only" one sub woofer goal,you are not taking the whole "view",why? I can't understand it"...I will give it one "last" attempt.....This is it...Because my MAIN speaker has superb output at "very low frequencies",AND I am ONLY using my sub to crossover at "24 hz"!!So,In MY ROOM,and with the particular "room loading" of the main speaker with "this" sub a second,third or whatever sub would be "overkill" to me,and those who have "heard" my system agree. I would rather put my money elsewhere!
It is NOT a "stand alone subject",but dependant on the room,main speaker's low bass,how low one crosses over "the main speaker" to the sub,not to mention that I am totally happy as is!AND I "think" I am pretty critical.
I really hope you follow my logic,as it pertains to me.It might not be your way of viewing the subject,but makes sense to me,and BTW I also greatly respect my friends who were responsible for introducing the hobby to me many years ago...I am done discussing my own taste and approach,and hope you are happy with your own choices.
Best.