Record Cleaning Fluids: RRL vs. L'Art du Son

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Kudos to 4yanx for his generosity.

I haven't tried L'Art du Son so I can't offer a comparison. Otherwise I second what he said.

Any product which requires mixing requires a source of suitably pure water. Tap water certainly won't do, I ruined records with that before I learned better. Store-bought distilled won't do, it isn't pure enough for a final clean and rinse. Unless you have a source for highly filtered, distilled and deionized water, your results with home-mixed solutions are unlikely to match RRL's, which is based on such highly purifed water that no rinsing is ever necessary.

Except for Vinyl-Zyme to deal with mold spores, RRL is about all I use. It cleans all but the scummiest thrift shop LPs and - very important - never leaves any residue. RRL vacuums off easily and completely, which is not true of some other products. That makes it the RCF of choice for me.

Well said Dougdeacon, as a new user of RRL fluids I have to say my initial experiences are similar to yours. I have tried a home made solution before and of course the VPI solution that came with my record cleaning machine. The RRL has been the best to date.

I would try the Audio Intelligent Vinyl Solution (AIVS) if I were you. I have used, and still use, RRL solutions but have found them to be not nearly as effective at deep cleaning of LP's as AIVS but very good at that final rinse to remove the last bit of surface noise. As a result, I use both. I first clean with the 2 stage AVIS solutions and then finish off with RRL. If the record is new, I just use RRL. My observations about RRL are the same as Michael Fremer's in the recent issue of Stereophile where he commented that it didn't really spread and disperse into the grooves. He's right, it does not do this but if you use it as a final rinse it picks up the last bit of residue from the grooves.

Not unlike most of what Fremer says, IMHO, he doesn't know of what he speaks regarding record cleaning fluids. The RRL fluids DO disperse into the grooves, they just don't stay there. The idea is that they enter to the grooves, do their business, then bead on the SURFACE, not IN the grooves, with the gunk suspended in liquid to be vacuumed away.

I have used the AIVS stuff and found that it seriously compromises the high end. Only when thoroughly rinsed away with Super Vinyl Wash (AND NO EASY JOB, THAT) does this tell tale signature disappear. Way too much work. In the event of a really filthy LP, I generally look for another copy. But, if that is not possible, I'd go with the Vinyl-Zyme instead, everytime - it being MUCH easier to remove than the AIVS.

Started using RR fluids four years ago and haven't felt the need to look elsewhere. Rarely do I have to clean my stylus and I attribute that to the efficiency of using these products to clean my vinyl.