MC transformers - what do they sound like?

Dear Shane: I never said thet the SUTs are bad, what I said is that any SUT design at any price do severe degradation to the quality of the signal that comes from the cartridge and that a PP design with out SUTs is a lot better that one with SUTs.
+++++ " I think as a few of the guys in the thread here have stated - it all depends on the design, the listener's musical preference and current tonal qualities of his system and budget. " +++++
If you want to use it like equalizers, fine it is up to you or up to any one but trying to cover faulties in the audio chain through SUTs is a double mistake!!!!!!!

The transformers exist before the LO cartridges and that transformers were not designed taking in account the LO cartridges. Someone take the transformers, like a patch, and introduce to us in audio: very bad play.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Well in Luke Manleys' defense he clearly is using the transformer to lower the noise floor. Go to his website and check for yourself. I have stated before that frequency response especially in electronics remains the most overated spec ever. He does claim s/n of 100db.

Gregadd. What does Luke Manley have to do with this thread. VTL don't even make a phono stage.

You must be confusing Eva Anna's Manley company which makes the steelhead. IMO, it is very quiet and has great dynamics - I can see why people like it, but to me sounded too hifi.

I was referring to the father (David?). He designs the pruducts while the kids run the company.
My point is that a transformer can yield a lower noise floor than a comparable high gain preamp.
It osunds hofi? that same criticism was made of rhe vendetta.

Dear Gregad: Two things, first my mistake about RIAA eq. deviation, it has to say: 0.1 db instead 1 db. ( big difference ).

About the Manley S/N you have to compare with the fixed output at 65 db gain: 70 db.

About the Vendetta, that was a criticism in the very early models ( many years ago ). The actual CTC ( that inbody the Vendetta ) is very good.

Regards and enjoy the music.

Raul.