Schroeder vs. Triplanar VII Sonic Differences


All,

I have read a lot of threads regarding the "superiortiy" of these tonearms in the right combinations of tables and catridges. However, there doesn't seem to be a lot said about the soncic characteristics of each brand and the differences between them. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about their strengths and weaknesses, sonci characteristics, applicability to various types of music (rock, pop, classical, large scale, small scale, etc).

Will a Schroeder deliver dynamics, punch, bass suited to Rock music? Will a Triplanar deliver natural, timbral accuracy? Are both these arms suited to the same music?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew
aoliviero
Hi Tbg...can you explain a bit more? Don't go with the Schroder....or do?? Sorry, it's Sunday night and my brain slows down at this time.....!
Rick (RWD)
Rwd, you said, "...I could be convinced to try a Tri-Planer." I said don't do that.

As I said earlier, I had an early Tri-Planer and really thought it allowed dialing in the cartridge quite easily. It was also great to be able to set the VTA easily for individual records. I still have many records with the setting number written on them.

The Schroeder came much later and was not the Reference, although because it had the Reference arm tube, I thought it was. It came with my Loricraft 501. It was strikingly dynamic once I learned how to set properly the distance between the magnets, which is critical. I suspect the Schroeder is more rigid and hence the dynamics.

I now use the Shindo Labs, so I have no personal investment in either the Tri-Planer or the Schroeder.
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BTW--on a selfish note:-Go for the Schroder Ref.--You don't live too far from me,and this way I'll get a chance to hear one.I'd also consider helping to set it up,provided you tempt me with a "cheap" Pinot Noir!

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Best!
In looking at your interesting letters, I just couldn't resist jumping in with a plug for the Phantom (what else?) The arms you're discussing - worthy contenders, both - are quite different in design approach from the path we've chosen with the Phantom. And the sonics will be quite different, too - and, if I may be so bold, we believe it to be highly accurate and less system-dependent to get the best out of it.
One other area we need to touch on is delivery: it's no secret that, sometimes, the demand exceeds our supply. At those times, and this is only when we're waiting for OUR suppliers (machine shops, etc) to get their act together and deliver on-time, we have to tell customers it will take an extra month or two. Believe me, I hate that, as we would like to process orders and ship within 1-2 weeks maximum; and I promise you, we're doing all we can to correct our own supply chain, but still maintain the aerospace level of quality that I demand. We're approaching that now, with new vendors and even improved quality from our earlier high standards. With an in-house production capacity of around 15 arms per week (all hand-made, mind you) this should even take care of the upcoming Impulse Buyers!
Please pardon the obvious commercial message here, but I think it's important to let the Discussion Groups know what we're doing to make our products - and our service - even better.
Happy Spring! - Bob Graham
Tbg,

You mentioned that in your evaluations a Schroeder (likely the Dps model) was better and more dynamic than an earlier Triplanar. Do you remember which model Triplanar?

Dougdeacon,

To put Tbg's comments in perspective, can you shed any additional light as to how older Triplanars compare to the Mark VII version?